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    I agree with the assessment that the NCSSRs mostly related to TLS.
    This means that for certificate types not related to existing CA/B
    Forum Guidelines (TLS, Code Signing), some CAs might find it really
    surprising having to implement the entirety of the NCSSRs,
    especially the air-gapped/offline RootCA requirements for S/MIME
    hierarchies.<br>
    <br>
    It's also very challenging for a CA to implement a roll-over S/MIME
    hierarchy (with an air-gapped/offline Root CA) within 3-6 months and
    complete Root inclusion requests, get ubiquity and so on.<br>
    <br>
    Dear Hongquan, is this the major concern or you see other issues
    with the adoption of the NCSSRs for S/MIME hierarchies in the SMBRs?<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Dimitris.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/9/2022 2:40 μ.μ., Hongquan Yin
      via Smcwg-public wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%">After sharing the
          guideline to more people in Microsoft, we have some feedback
          regarding below line:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;line-height:105%">“6.7
          Network security controls
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;line-height:105%">The
          CA/Browser Forum’s Network and Certificate System Security
          Requirements are incorporated by reference as if fully set
          forth herein.”<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%">While the goal of
          the NCSSR’s is to be certificate agnostic, the history is
          mostly related to TLS. There’s a risk that a requirement has
          already been implemented or could be implemented that would
          conflict with S/MIME requirements. We would recommend adding a
          statement that if there are any conflicts, that the S/MIME
          Baseline Requirements take precedence.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:105%">Possibly add a
          sentence such as: “In the event of a conflict between the
          S/MIME BRs and the NCSSRs, the S/MIME BRs will take
          precedence.”<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
              UI",sans-serif">Thank you for considering the change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"
            style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><b><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
                UI",sans-serif">Ho</span></b><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe
              UI",sans-serif">ngquan
              <b>Yi</b>n</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"
              style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><b>From:</b>
              Smcwg-public <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"><smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a>
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:03 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [Smcwg-public] Ballot SMC01:
              Final Guideline for “S/MIME Baseline Requirements”<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Ballot SMC01: Final
              Guideline for “S/MIME Baseline Requirements”
            </span></strong><strong><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><o:p> </o:p></span></strong></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Purpose of Ballot:</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:105%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
            S/MIME Certificate Working Group was chartered to discuss,
            adopt, and maintain policies, frameworks, and standards for
            the issuance and management of Publicly-Trusted S/MIME
            Certificates.  This ballot adopts a new “S/MIME Baseline
            Requirements” that includes requirements for verification of
            control over email addresses, identity validation for
            natural persons and legal entities, key management and
            certificate lifecycle, certificate profiles for S/MIME
            Certificates and Issuing CA Certificates, as well as CA
            operational and audit practices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">An
            S/MIME Certificate for the purposes of this document can be
            identified by the existence of an Extended Key Usage (EKU)
            for id-kp-emailProtection (OID: 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.4) and the
            inclusion of a rfc822Name or an otherName of type
            id-on-SmtpUTF8Mailbox in the subjectAltName extension in the
            Certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">The
            following motion has been proposed by Stephen Davidson of
            DigiCert and endorsed by Martijn Katerbarg of Sectigo and
            ­­­Ben Wilson of Mozilla.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Charter Voting References</span></strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span style="color:black"><a
href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fblob%2Fe6ad111f4477010cbff409cd939c5ac1c7c85ccc%2Fdocs%2FSMCWG-charter.md%2351-voting-structure&data=05%7C01%7Chongquan.yin%40microsoft.com%7C70f13519b92c4417b4f508da91682f2b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637982174108537999%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=HhWwlEUw7uF2tm%2Fzit%2BBZmgz7%2Bp0jct%2BHpHkEe5BDuQ%3D&reserved=0"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Section
                5.1 (“Voting Structure”)</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">
            of the SMCWG Charter says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In
            order for a ballot to be adopted by the SMCWG, two-thirds or
            more of the votes cast by the Certificate Issuers must be in
            favor of the ballot and more than 50% of the votes cast by
            the Certificate Consumers must be in favor of the ballot. At
            least one member of each class must vote in favor of a
            ballot for it to be adopted. Quorum is the average number of
            Member organizations (cumulative, regardless of Class) that
            have participated in the previous three (3) SMCWG Meetings
            or Teleconferences (not counting subcommittee meetings
            thereof).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">— MOTION BEGINS —</span></strong><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><br>
            </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
            This ballot adopts the “Baseline Requirements for the
            Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted S/MIME
            Certificates” (“S/MIME Baseline Requirements”) as Version
            1.0.0.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
            proposed S/MIME Baseline Requirements may be found at
            <a
href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fsmime%2Fcompare%2F7b3ab3c55dd92052a8dc0d4f85a2ac26269c222e...28c0b904fe54f1c5f6c71d18c4786a3e02c76f52&data=05%7C01%7Chongquan.yin%40microsoft.com%7C70f13519b92c4417b4f508da91682f2b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637982174108694198%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LeGxSesCeeTKziMM1pTk985zVUXqAwvzuEWlVJJ6OyQ%3D&reserved=0"
              moz-do-not-send="true">
https://github.com/cabforum/smime/compare/7b3ab3c55dd92052a8dc0d4f85a2ac26269c222e...28c0b904fe54f1c5f6c71d18c4786a3e02c76f52</a>
            or the attached document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
            SMCWG Chair or Vice-Chair is permitted to update the
            Relevant Dates and Version Number of the S/MIME Baseline
            Requirements to reflect final dates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">— MOTION ENDS —</span></strong><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><br>
            </span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
            This ballot proposes a Final Guideline. The procedure for
            approval of this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Discussion
            (7+ days)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
          </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Start
            Time: 8 September 2022 17:00 UTC</span><span
            style="color:black"><br>
          </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">End
            Time: 15 September 2022 17:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Vote
            for approval (7 days)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
          </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Start
            Time: 15 September 2022 17:00 UTC</span><span
            style="color:black"><br>
          </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">End
            Time: 22 September 2022 17:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">IPR
            Review (60 days)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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