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    <p>Also, I just realized that S/MIME signatures (which I apply to
      all my emails) are not preserved in this discussion list, which is
      rather disappointing and particularly contradictory for a list
      devoted to S/MIME.</p>
    <p>I am sure this is not due to bad will, but nonetheless...<br>
    </p>
    <p>Adriano</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 13/09/2022 14:17, Adriano Santoni
      via Smcwg-public ha scritto:<br>
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      <p><font face="Calibri">I fully concur with Dimitris.</font></p>
      <p><font face="Calibri">Adriano</font></p>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 13/09/2022 13:22, Dimitris
        Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Smcwg-public ha scritto:<br>
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                    red;">NOTICE:</span> Pay attention - external email
                  - Sender is
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        In addition, we should clarify which countryName is expected in
        the subject of the certificate in the "sponsor-validated"
        profile. <br>
        <br>
        Since the subject:organizationName is mandatory, it is expected
        that the subject:countryName is the Country of the Organization,
        not the individual. This could be added in the Note of section
        7.1.4.2.5. <br>
        <br>
        In the same section, 7.1.4.2.5 the subject:countryName should be
        updated to a SHALL for all cases (Legacy, Multipurpose, Strict).
        <br>
        <br>
        ETSI Certificates (See ETSI EN 319 412-2 section 4.2.4) require
        the countryName even for certificates issued to Natural Persons
        which makes the countryName a potential SHALL under 7.1.4.2.6
        (individual-validated profile). The CA always knows and
        validates the country of the individual because it is related to
        the identity document that the CA verifies. <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Thank you for considering these changes, <br>
        Dimitris. <br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/9/2022 1:24 μ.μ., Dimitris
          Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Smcwg-public wrote:<br>
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            After a more detailed review by the HARICA team, we noticed
            some areas of concern that we hope will be considered for
            update by the authors and endorsers of this ballot.<br>
            <ul>
              <li>7.1.2.3 c</li>
              <ul>
                <li>authorityInformationAccess (<b>SHALL</b> be present)
                  -> authorityInformationAccess (<b>SHOULD</b> be
                  present) [Rationale: OCSP is not currently required
                  for S/MIME Certificates by all Certificate Consumers.
                  Only Microsoft Root Program requires it and perhaps
                  this is due to a copy-over from the TLS BRs without
                  performing a technical analysis specifically on S/MIME
                  or clientAuth or codeSigning Certificates. The CSCWG
                  already removed the requirement for OCSP in Subscriber
                  Certificates in the CSBRs].<br>
                </li>
                <li>The authorityInformationAccess extension <b>SHALL</b>
                  contain at least one accessMethod value of type
                  id-ad-ocsp that specifies the URI of the Issuing CA’s
                  OCSP responder. -> The authorityInformationAccess
                  extension <b>MAY</b> contain at least one
                  accessMethod value of type id-ad-ocsp that specifies
                  the URI of the Issuing CA’s OCSP responder.
                  [Rationale: same as above]<br>
                </li>
              </ul>
              <li>7.1.4.2.4 Subject DN attributes for
                organization-validated profile and 7.1.4.2.5 Subject DN
                attributes for sponsor-validated profile<br>
                    subject:countryName <b>MAY</b> ->
                subject:countryName <b>SHALL</b> [Rationale:
                Organization Names must contain a Country Name to
                indicate where this Organization is located. This
                applies to the organization-validated and the
                sponsor-validated profile. It is also referenced in
                Appendix A - Registration Schemes]</li>
            </ul>
            <br>
            Thank you,<br>
            Dimitris.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On 8/9/2022 10:03 π.μ., Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public
            wrote:<br>
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              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> Ballot SMC01: Final
                    Guideline for “S/MIME Baseline Requirements” <o:p></o:p></span></strong></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> <o:p> </o:p></span></strong></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> Purpose of Ballot:</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;line-height:106%;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
                  S/MIME Certificate Working Group was chartered to
                  discuss, adopt, and maintain policies, frameworks, and
                  standards for the issuance and management of
                  Publicly-Trusted S/MIME Certificates.  This ballot
                  adopts a new “S/MIME Baseline Requirements” that
                  includes requirements for verification of control over
                  email addresses, identity validation for natural
                  persons and legal entities, key management and
                  certificate lifecycle, certificate profiles for S/MIME
                  Certificates and Issuing CA Certificates, as well as
                  CA operational and audit practices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">An
                  S/MIME Certificate for the purposes of this document
                  can be identified by the existence of an Extended Key
                  Usage (EKU) for id-kp-emailProtection (OID:
                  1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.4) and the inclusion of a rfc822Name
                  or an otherName of type id-on-SmtpUTF8Mailbox in the
                  subjectAltName extension in the Certificate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">The
                  following motion has been proposed by Stephen Davidson
                  of DigiCert and endorsed by Martijn Katerbarg of
                  Sectigo and ­­­Ben Wilson of Mozilla.</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> Charter Voting
                    References</span></strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
                  style="color:black"><a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/blob/e6ad111f4477010cbff409cd939c5ac1c7c85ccc/docs/SMCWG-charter.md#51-voting-structure"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Section
                      5.1 (“Voting Structure”)</span></a></span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">of
                  the SMCWG Charter says:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">In
                  order for a ballot to be adopted by the SMCWG,
                  two-thirds or more of the votes cast by the
                  Certificate Issuers must be in favor of the ballot and
                  more than 50% of the votes cast by the Certificate
                  Consumers must be in favor of the ballot. At least one
                  member of each class must vote in favor of a ballot
                  for it to be adopted. Quorum is the average number of
                  Member organizations (cumulative, regardless of Class)
                  that have participated in the previous three (3) SMCWG
                  Meetings or Teleconferences (not counting subcommittee
                  meetings thereof).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> — MOTION BEGINS —</span></strong><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
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                  </span></b> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
                  This ballot adopts the “Baseline Requirements for the
                  Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted S/MIME
                  Certificates” (“S/MIME Baseline Requirements”) as
                  Version 1.0.0.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
                  proposed S/MIME Baseline Requirements may be found at
                  <a
href="https://github.com/cabforum/smime/compare/7b3ab3c55dd92052a8dc0d4f85a2ac26269c222e...28c0b904fe54f1c5f6c71d18c4786a3e02c76f52"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/cabforum/smime/compare/7b3ab3c55dd92052a8dc0d4f85a2ac26269c222e...28c0b904fe54f1c5f6c71d18c4786a3e02c76f52</a>
                  or the attached document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
                  SMCWG Chair or Vice-Chair is permitted to update the
                  Relevant Dates and Version Number of the S/MIME
                  Baseline Requirements to reflect final dates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"> — MOTION ENDS —</span></strong><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333;border:none
                    windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><br>
                  </span></b> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
                  This ballot proposes a Final Guideline. The procedure
                  for approval of this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Discussion
                  (7+ days)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
                </span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Start
                  Time: 8 September 2022 17:00 UTC</span><span
                  style="color:black"><br>
                </span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">End
                  Time: 15 September 2022 17:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Vote
                  for approval (7 days)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
                </span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Start
                  Time: 15 September 2022 17:00 UTC</span><span
                  style="color:black"><br>
                </span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">End
                  Time: 22 September 2022 17:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
              <p style="margin:0in;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">IPR
                  Review (60 days)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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