<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
Russ:
<div class="">Unless I missed some message Tim said that and/or means “that it can be in the CP and the CPS, or just the CP, or just the CPS”. This is the same I said.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Something to consider is that, eventually, the CP could state that the CA will stipulate the provisions around suspension in the CPS. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">So all depends how the documents are written, but the key point here is that, for any kind of stipulation, CP and CPS must be consistent.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best,</div>
<div class="">Pedro</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On 2 Sep 2022, at 15:58, Russ Housley <<a href="mailto:housley@vigilsec.com" class="">housley@vigilsec.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
Pedro:
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Please see the analysis by Tim. As I said, I am not content with is only appearing in a CPS. If it appears in a document that serves as both a CP and a CPS, that is acceptable to me.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Russ</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:40 AM, Pedro FUENTES <<a href="mailto:pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM" class="">pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Russ,</div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">The traditional interpretation of and/or is actually “or”, from a logical perspective. </div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">Anyway, if I’m wrong I’m happy to be corrected. </div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">BR/P</div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 1 sept. 2022 à 22:10, Russ Housley <<a href="mailto:housley@vigilsec.com" class="">housley@vigilsec.com</a>> a écrit :<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">Pedro:
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Which means that it could be only be in the CPS and not in the CP. I could live with "and". I think "and/or" is what causes the problem.
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Russ</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 1, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Pedro FUENTES <<a href="mailto:pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM" class="">pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">Well.. I could be wrong as I’m using my mobile, but I thought I saw in GitHub “CP and/or CPS”</div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 1 sept. 2022 à 21:24, Russ Housley <<a href="mailto:housley@vigilsec.com" class="">housley@vigilsec.com</a>> a écrit :<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""> Pedro:
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">In my view, the current wording would allow a CA to only discuss suspension in the CPS, even if that CA has both a CP and a CPS. That seems wrong to me.</div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Russ</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 1, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Pedro FUENTES <<a href="mailto:pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM" class="">pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" class="">Although we do, not all CAs have separate CP and CPS. The wording must be flexible. </div>
<div dir="ltr" class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 1 sept. 2022 à 21:07, Russ Housley via Smcwg-public <<a href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org" class="">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a>> a écrit :<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""> Stephen:
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">I would strongly prefer that any use of suspension be described in the CP (not the CPS).</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Russ</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class=""><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:54 AM, Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public <<a href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org" class="">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Hello:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Following active discussion relating to suspension for leaf certificates by the WG, it was agreed to document the use of suspension for the Legacy and Multipurpose certificate generations.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
There were arguments regarding the appropriateness of certificateHold in the context of S/MIME, and its effectiveness in the face of limited client support.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
However, suspension is permitted by some other standards and regulations, and is used by CAs for S/MIME-capable certificates in some regions.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
It is likely that future ballots may further amend these Requirements relating to suspension.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
A draft of the changes may be found at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_cabforum_smime_commit_347eb1b93e1ac5b2ceb13692ce958b6ebd5af5ff&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=tqhseCjhGy1A7E44VMn6WzaiveyVhTw1OH3Hqh75XMA&s=QA7hqsdMpnHwMPA2pcup2gL9nERRGC0S4brZ42fCVuY&e=" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://github.com/cabforum/smime/commit/347eb1b93e1ac5b2ceb13692ce958b6ebd5af5ff</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<o:p class=""> </o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Regards, Stephen<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
</div>
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Smcwg-public
mailing list</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<a href="mailto:Smcwg-public@cabforum.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_smcwg-2Dpublic&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=tqhseCjhGy1A7E44VMn6WzaiveyVhTw1OH3Hqh75XMA&s=DMu9IJhPx628INsjWMRc2MyGOOA7IeBKkXH3Zai7648&e=" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/smcwg-public</a></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
<span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class="">
<span class="">Smcwg-public mailing list</span><br class="">
<span class=""><a href="mailto:Smcwg-public@cabforum.org" class="">Smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a></span><br class="">
<span class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_smcwg-2Dpublic&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=tqhseCjhGy1A7E44VMn6WzaiveyVhTw1OH3Hqh75XMA&s=DMu9IJhPx628INsjWMRc2MyGOOA7IeBKkXH3Zai7648&e=" class="">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_smcwg-2Dpublic&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=tqhseCjhGy1A7E44VMn6WzaiveyVhTw1OH3Hqh75XMA&s=DMu9IJhPx628INsjWMRc2MyGOOA7IeBKkXH3Zai7648&e=</a></span><br class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div dir="auto" class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<span id="cid:66C05E04-FC8C-44ED-96B2-23633AFFDF5E@rg.net" class=""><signature.asc></span></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br class="">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div dir="auto" style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div style="text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<font class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><b class=""><font color="#f62400" class="" style="font-size: 11px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
WISeKey SA<br class="">
</font></b></font>
<div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">
<font class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;"><span class="" style="font-size: 11px;"><b class="">Pedro Fuentes<br class="">
</b>CSO - Trust Services Manager</span><br class="">
<font size="1" class="">Office: + 41 (0) 22 594 30 00<br class="">
Mobile: + 41 (0) </font></font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: x-small; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal;" class="">791 274 790</span></div>
<div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">
<font class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><font size="1" class="">Address: </font></font><font size="1" class="">Avenue
Louis-Casaï 58 | </font><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="">1216 Cointrin | Switzerland</span></div>
<div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">
<font class=""><font size="1" class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><b class="">Stay
connected with <a href="http://www.wisekey.com" class=""><font color="#f62400" class="">WISeKey</font></a><br class="">
</b></font></font><span class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(169, 169, 169); font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><br class="">
</span></div>
<div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">
<div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal;">
<span class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><font size="1" color="#78a600" class=""><b class="">THIS IS A TRUSTED MAIL</b>: This message is digitally signed with a WISeKey identity. If you get a mail from WISeKey please check the signature to avoid security
risks</font></span></div>
<div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal;">
<span class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2; font-size: 9px;"><font color="#a9a9a9" class=""><br class="">
</font></span></div>
<div class="" style="font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; line-height: normal;">
<div class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><font color="#a9a9a9" class="" style="font-size: 9px;"><b class="">CONFIDENTIALITY: </b>This email and any files transmitted with it can be confidential and it’s intended solely for the use of the individual or entity
to which they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender</font></div>
<div class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><font color="#a9a9a9" class="" style="font-size: 9px;"><br class="">
</font></div>
<div class="" style="orphans: 2; widows: 2;"><font color="#a9a9a9" class="" style="font-size: 9px;"><b class="">DISCLAIMER: </b>WISeKey does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of this message and does not accept any liability for any errors or omissions herein
as this message has been transmitted over a public network. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information may be intercepted, corrupted, or contain viruses. Attachments to this e-mail are checked for viruses; however, we
do not accept any liability for any damage sustained by viruses and therefore you are kindly requested to check for viruses upon receipt.</font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>