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    <p><font face="Calibri">I </font><font face="Calibri">totally agree
        with </font>Martijn Katerbarg.<br>
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    <p>Adriano</p>
    <p>ACTALIS S.p.A.</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 05/08/2022 09:02, Martijn Katerbarg
      via Smcwg-public ha scritto:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="en-SE">Should we at least subject:countryName to be
            present in these specific cases</span><span
            style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Otherwise, we could end up having certificates
            with a subject looking like this (OV):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US">subject:organizationName: Ministry of Finance<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">This leaves no way of telling for which country
            and entity this is. Possibly the email address tld could
            tell someone, but that shouldn’t be relied upon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">I’ve done a comparison with EV certificates.
            There are currently EV certificates out there with
            O=Ministry of Finance and SN=Government Entity, spanning 12
            different country codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="en-SE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Smcwg-public
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"><smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a> <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4 August 2022 16:49<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Smcwg-public] OrganizationIdentifier
                for Gov and Treaty Orgs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            style="line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03"><span
              style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">CAUTION:
              This email originated from outside of the organization. Do
              not click links or open attachments unless you recognize
              the sender and know the content is safe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In recent calls the
              group discussed that some Government and International
              Organization entities may not have identifiers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It was agreed to adopt
              a similar workaround to that provided in the EV
              Guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have added text
              implementing that change as seen at <a
href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fsmime%2Fpull%2F158%2Ffiles&data=05%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0f411c93c7404dfc94a008da76288a32%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637952213783726589%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=MZM2OTOjk5dUNo52UbgMZKk%2B5OSnE5l9SZvf7L0tYi8%3D&reserved=0"
                moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/cabforum/smime/pull/158/files</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span
                style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3"
                lang="EN-US">Stephen Davidson <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869"
              lang="EN-US">Governance, Risk & Compliance<br>
              <a href="mailto:stephen.davidson@digicert.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">stephen.davidson@digicert.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span
              style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#686869"
              lang="EN-US">O 1.441.278.2803 | M 1.441.505.4908</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                src="cid:part1.o751TYNB.dznWUxlL@staff.aruba.it"
                alt="DigiCert_QuoVadis Logo Lockups_Phase
                1_EmailSignatures_Phase1" class="" width="350"
                height="75" border="0"></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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