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    <p>We would also strongly prefer that a standard TLS OV vetting
      model be adopted, but preserving the inclusion of the subject:
      organizationIdentifier attribute (in OV and SV certificates) which
      seems to us an excellent idea to distinguish "ANY company called
      ExampleCo or that it's THAT PARTICULAR company called ExampleCo
      registered in New York ", a distinction that I believe ought
      always be possible before relying on a" trusted "certificate.</p>
    <p>Adriano</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il 27/04/2022 15:04, Doug Beattie via
      Smcwg-public ha scritto:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Hi Stephen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Regarding
            the vetting process, I’d like to add one more to your list
            for consideration and that’s to use the standard TLS OV
            vetting model from the BRs, section 3.2 vs OV+ as shown
            below.  Code Signing uses that same section as is, so for
            me, it would make sense to also have a flavor of S/MIME that
            uses that section without modification.  Can we add a 4<sup>th</sup>
            bullet to your agenda for that option to be considered?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I also think
            there is a discussion to be had on audit requirements for
            Enterprise RA when adding a user’s name into the S/MIME
            certificates, maybe for a future meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                style="color:windowtext"> Smcwg-public
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"><smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org></a> <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 26, 2022 6:09 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> SMIME Certificate Working Group
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org"><smcwg-public@cabforum.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Smcwg-public] Draft SMCWG agenda -
                Wednesday, April 27, 2022<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <h2><a name="_Hlk72771135" moz-do-not-send="true">SMCWG Agenda<o:p></o:p></a></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">Draft SMCWG
              agenda - Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 11:00 am Eastern
              Time<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">Here is a
              draft agenda for the teleconference described in the
              subject of this message. Please review and propose changes
              if necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">1.           
              Roll Call <o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">2.           
              Read Antitrust / Compliance Statement<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">3.           
              Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">4.           
              Approval of minutes from teleconference of April 13, 2022<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">5.           
              Discussion <o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.5in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">Previous WG
              discussions in 2021 focused upon whether the S/MIME BR
              needed to establish the O is ANY company called ExampleCo
              or that it's THAT PARTICULAR company called ExampleCo
              registered in New York. Based on feedback from Cert
              Consumers, WG discussion gravitated towards EV-like
              vetting and the inclusion of a unique identifier in the
              certificates (using the subject:organizationalIdentifer
              from ETSI and the EVG rather than the layered EV JOI
              attributes).<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.5in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">Some CA
              concern has now been raised regarding EV as the choice for
              O vetting.  Options to be discussed:<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">•     Go full
              EV (as currently proposed in Section 3.2.3 [org vetting],
              3.26 [validation of authority], and 3.2.8 [reliability of
              sources] of the draft S/MIME BR, on basis has existing
              CABF approval/audit criteria)<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">•     Use
              modernized EV (what parts are best suited for the S/MIME
              use case? Have heard proposals to remove physical and
              operational presence, review roles, simplify the text)<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">•     Adopt
              OV+ (restrict to Gov data sources or active/corroborated
              LEI; provide more detail on attestations, roles)<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.5in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">The goal is to
              resolve this remaining issue so we can move to Pre-Ballot
              discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">6.           
              Any other business <o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2 style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.5in"><span
            style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">7.           
              Next call:  Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 11:00 am Eastern
              Time<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
        <h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Hlk72771135"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-weight:normal">               
              Adjourn<o:p></o:p></span></span></h2>
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