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    while I'm not a a member of this group, how about some
    stanard-hashed version of real id? CN = sha256(real name+salt) ?<br>
    it still can't be verifyed by outsider without knowing real id, and
    it's trivial to copy entire CN but if we trust CA then we can sat a
    same name means the same person?  <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">2022-03-10 오후 6:39에 Dimitris
      Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Smcwg-public 이(가) 쓴 글:<br>
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      Matthias,<br>
      <br>
      This is indeed a legal requirement in eIDAS and we need to see its
      applicability for S/MIME certificates.<br>
      <br>
      The problem we need to address is the fact that I can validate
      myself to a CA with my physical presence and my official name
      (Dimitrios Zacharopoulos), and ask for a Pseudonym to be included
      in the certificate, but the process is unclear. Here are some
      questions/concerns (not addressed explicitly to Matthias, anyone
      can chime-in): <br>
      <ul>
        <li>Could I ask that my pseudonym is "Matthias Wiedenhorst" or
          "Mickey Mouse"? How is THAT information validated so that it
          is not misleading to Relying Parties?</li>
        <li>Can the pseudonym be a name/value that the CA decides, e.g.
          "Pseudonym-482733812"? How is that helpful for Relying
          Parties?<br>
        </li>
        <li>Can a Relying Party ask the CA to reveal the real identity
          of the person behind the pseudonym? If this is the case, how
          is this protecting the real person for being in danger?</li>
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      Thanks,<br>
      Dimitris.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/3/2022 9:05 π.μ., Wiedenhorst,
        Matthias via Smcwg-public wrote:<br>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
              all!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB">Article 5 (2) eIDAS reads:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-GB">“Without prejudice to the legal effect
                given to pseudonyms under national law, the use of
                pseudonyms in electronic transactions shall not be
                prohibited.”<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB">I am not a lawyer, but to me it sounds as if
              prohibiting pseudonyms could cause problems within the EU.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB">Legitimate use cases that I have heard of
              from different CAs are for example persons from the “law
              enforcement area” that are in danger to be threatened or
              even attacked in their private live when their full real
              name is known.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB">As already pointed out, a pseudonym
              certificate is not an anonymous certificate, but only the
              CA is able to reveal identity. Identification of the
              person has to be performed identically as if a certificate
              without pseudonym would be issued.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
              lang="EN-GB">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              lang="EN-GB">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Von:</b> Smcwg-public <a
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                  href="mailto:smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
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                <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public<br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 9. März 2022 15:34<br>
                <b>An:</b> Pedro FUENTES <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><pfuentes@WISEKEY.COM></a>;
                SMIME Certificate Working Group <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><smcwg-public@cabforum.org></a>;
                Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <a
                  class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                  href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"
                  moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Smcwg-public] [EXTERNAL]-Re: Common
                Name contents<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In general, the CA is
              supposed to validate the true identity of a holder behind
              a subject:pseudonym.  This is different from an anonymous
              cert.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The difficulty we face
              is that, having chosen to require Subject identity
              information to be verified, it would be inconsistent to
              allow the freeform use of pseudonyms.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As far as I know, only
              Germany provides the options for alternative “religious
              names or pseudonyms” on their national ID: <a
href="https://www.consilium.europa.eu/prado/en/DEU-BO-02004/image-344552.html"
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https://www.consilium.europa.eu/prado/en/DEU-BO-02004/image-344552.html</a>
              ... So that significantly narrows the options for
              verifying pseudonyms!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My personal belief is
              that we should drop the use of pseudonyms from this
              draft.  I hope that SMCWG members that disagree with this
              will speak up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The Mailbox-validated
              (MV) profiles are probably more appropriate for users not
              wishing “real name” identity to be in their certs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                  lang="EN-US"> Smcwg-public <<a
                    href="mailto:smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">smcwg-public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pedro FUENTES via Smcwg-public<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 7, 2022 2:35 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a
                    href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>;
                  SMIME Certificate Working Group <<a
                    href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Smcwg-public] [EXTERNAL]-Re:
                  Common Name contents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Could it be just
                acceptable that a pseudonym is freely chosen by a
                subscriber?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">In other words…
                could it be acceptable to have names in the subjectName
                which don’t require validation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We don’t currently
                use such attributes, but I wonder if this could be good
                to reserve certain flexibility for use cases where
                anonymization is desired. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Pedro<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                  lang="EN-US">Le 7 mars 2022 à 18:58, Dimitris
                  Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Smcwg-public <<a
                    href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">smcwg-public@cabforum.org</a>>
                  a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                  lang="EN-US"> Unless CAs have some clear rules on how
                  to validate pseudonyms, I also believe we should
                  exclude this attribute from the allowed profiles which
                  makes this attribute practically not allowed. We must
                  be explicit about this because other attributes may be
                  allowed.<br>
                  <br>
                  Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 7/3/2022 9:41
                    π.μ., Adriano Santoni via Smcwg-public wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p><span lang="EN-US">We do not support pseudonyms, and
                    do not think there is a need for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">...we could
                      even chose to exclude this attribute from the
                      allowed profiles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                </blockquote>
                <p><span lang="EN-US">Yes, that's what we suggest to do:
                    exclude this attribute from the allowed profiles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p><span lang="EN-US">Adriano<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Il 02/03/2022
                      18:43, Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-public ha
                      scritto:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi Doug:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">1. Further to
                      our discussion today, the language in ETSI EN 319
                      412-2 probably has the clearest definition:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
                      lang="EN-US">The commonName attribute value shall
                      contain a name of the subject. This may be in the
                      subject's preferred presentation format, or a
                      format preferred by the CA, or some other format.
                      Pseudonyms, nicknames, and names with spelling
                      other than defined by the registered name may be
                      used. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
                      lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
                      lang="EN-US">NOTE 1: The commonName attribute has
                      a usage purpose that is different from the
                      required choice of pseudonym or givenName/surname.
                      commonName is used for user friendly
                      representation of the person's name, whereas
                      givenName/surname is used where more formal
                      representation or verification of specific
                      identity of the user is required. To maximize
                      interoperability both are considered necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It does not
                      give guidance on the scope for “user friendly
                      representation of the person's name” and as far as
                      I can tell, most TSPs apply either (givenName and
                      surname) or pseudonym in that field.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Notwithstanding
                      this, our previous discussions had been for the
                      commonName to include verified information for the
                      purposes of the S/MIME BR, leading to the options
                      described <a
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                        moz-do-not-send="true"> here</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span lang="EN-US">We are
                          interested in hearing perspectives from both
                          Certificate Issuers and Certificate Issuers on
                          this point.</span></u></b><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2.  The
                      handling of subject:pseudonym is still an
                      unresolved issue – and so text still needs to be
                      tightened up. We are working from the basis that
                      Subject information must be verified, so this
                      would also apply to pseudonym (ie not a self
                      reported name). Pseudonym identity is, by
                      definition, linked to the person’s real identity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">ETSI TS 199
                      461 tries to deal with it by saying:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
                      lang="EN-US">Although the outcome of the identity
                      proofing can be a pseudonym identity, identity
                      proofing requires identification of the real
                      identity of the person as determined by applicable
                      identity documents, official registers or other
                      authoritative sources.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
                      lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But as far as
                      I can tell, only Germany provides pseudonym as an
                      information attribute on official identity
                      documents.  Given the lack of clarity, we could
                      even chose to exclude this attribute from the
                      allowed profiles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span lang="EN-US">We’d be
                          interested to hear from Certificate Issuers
                          what their practices are using the pseudonym
                          in regulated certificate types.</span></u></b><span
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best, Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Stephen
                      Davidson <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">DigiCert
                      Governance, Risk & Compliance<br>
                      <a href="mailto:stephen.davidson@digicert.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">stephen.davidson@digicert.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">O
                      1.441.278.2803 | M 1.441.505.4908<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><code><span
                        style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></code><span
                      lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                          lang="EN-US"> Doug Beattie <a
                            href="mailto:doug.beattie@globalsign.com"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><doug.beattie@globalsign.com></a>
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 2, 2022 1:10 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Stephen Davidson <a
                            href="mailto:Stephen.Davidson@digicert.com"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><Stephen.Davidson@digicert.com></a>;
                          SMIME Certificate Working Group <a
                            href="mailto:smcwg-public@cabforum.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"><smcwg-public@cabforum.org></a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Common Name contents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hey Stephen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">During the
                      call today it was mentioned that all of the
                      subject info pulled from the certificates and
                      displayed via GUI needs to be validated (no more
                      OU logic). I went back and looked at the options
                      for Sponsor validated certs and it permits the
                      Pseudonym to be present in the CN.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I went to
                      check the rules for validation and found this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">f. <strong><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Certificate Field:</span></strong>
                    </span><code><span style="font-size:10.0pt"
                        lang="EN-US">subject:pseudonym</span></code><span
                      lang="EN-US"> (2.5.4.65)<br>
                      <strong><span
                          style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Contents:</span></strong>
                      The pseudonym attribute MUST NOT be present if the
                      givenName and/or surname attribute are present. If
                      present, the </span><code><span
                        style="font-size:10.0pt" lang="EN-US">subject:pseudonym</span></code><span
                      lang="EN-US"> field field MUST be verified
                      according to <a
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">But I could
                      not find any references to this field in that
                      section, or section 3.2.4 that indicates how this
                      is to be validated.  Are there CA validation rules
                      for this, or can any value be supplied?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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