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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">Hi Wendy!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext">I’m trying to get access to the spreadsheet to add Siemens PKI policies. But it seems nobody reacts on the request. Could you please double check?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">With best regards,<br>
Rufus Buschart<br>
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Siemens AG<br>
Siemens Operations<br>
Information Technology<br>
Value Center Core Services<br>
SOP IT IN COR<br>
Freyeslebenstr. 1<br>
91058 Erlangen, Germany <br>
Tel.: +49 1522 2894134<br>
<a href="mailto:rufus.buschart@siemens.com"><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">mailto:rufus.buschart@siemens.com</span></font></a><br>
<a href="http://www.twitter.com/siemens"><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">www.twitter.com/siemens</span></font></a><br>
<a href="https://siemens.com/ingenuityforlife"><font color="blue"><span style="color:blue">www.siemens.com/ingenuityforlife</span></font></a><br>
</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><img border="0" width="240" height="87" style="width:2.5in;height:.9062in" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.gif@01D684FA.8C897F40"></span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><br>
</span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Jim Hagemann Snabe; Managing Board: Joe Kaeser, Chairman, President
 and Chief Executive Officer; Roland Busch, Klaus Helmrich, Cedrik Neike, Ralf P. Thomas; Registered offices: Berlin and Munich, Germany; Commercial registries: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, Munich, HRB 6684; WEEE-Reg.-No. DE 23691322<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"> Smcwg-management <smcwg-management-bounces@cabforum.org>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Stephen Davidson via Smcwg-management<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 14:45<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> smcwg-management@cabforum.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Smcwg-management] DRAFT - Minutes of SMCWG August 19, 2020<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<h2><b><font size="5" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Minutes of SMCWG<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">August 19, 2020<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">These are the Draft Minutes of the Teleconference described in the subject of this message. Corrections and clarifications where needed are encouraged by reply.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Attendees
<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Matthias Wiedenhorst  (ACAB'c), Arno Fiedler (Arno Fiedler), Mads Henriksveen  (BuyPass), Qiu Dawei  (CFCA), Zhang Danmeng  (CFCA), Li-Chun Chen  (Chunghwa Telecom),
 Tsung-Min Kuo  (Chunghwa Telecom), Andreas Henschel (D-TRUST), Tim Hollebeek (DigiCert), Dean Coclin (DigiCert), Bruce Morton (Entrust DataCard), Wendy Brown (Federal PKI), Thomas Connelly (Federal PKI), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Hugh Mercer (GlobalSign),
 Atsushi Inaba  (GlobalSign), Hongquan Yin  (Microsoft), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate.com Sdn Bhd), Ahmad Syafiq Md Zaini (MSC Trustgate.com Sdn Bhd), Fakrul Radzi (MSC Trustgate.com Sdn Bhd), Nazmi Abd Hadi  (MSC Trustgate.com Sdn Bhd), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE),
 Rich Smith (Sectigo), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Markus Wichmann (TeleTrust), Morad Abou Nasser (TeleTrust), Neil Dunbar  (TrustCor), Corey Bonnell  (Trustwave), Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC), Burkhard Wiegel (Zertificon), Peggy Hüpenbecker
 (Zertificon), Mevre Tunca (Zertificon)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">1. Roll Call<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Roll Call was taken.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">2. Read Antitrust Statement<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Antitrust/Compliance Statement was read.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">3. Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dean Coclin proposed a change in membership status (see below).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">4. Approval of minutes from last teleconference<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The minutes of the August 5 teleconference were approved with an update to the attendance list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">5.  Approval of New Members<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The declarations of the following were noted:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Certificate Consumer:  Zertificon<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Interested Party:  Nathalie Weiler<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Their membership in the SMCWG was accepted by consensus.  In addition, Dean Coclin clarified the status of current Associate Member MSC Trustgate.com Sdn Bhd as
 being eligible as a Certificate Issuer.  A change in membership status was accepted by consensus.  As such, the current membership of the SMCWG is:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Certificate Issuers:  Actalis, Asseco Data Systems (Certum), BuyPass, CFCA, Chunghwa Telecom, Comsign, DigiCert, D-TRUST, eMudhra, Entrust DataCard, GDCA, GlobalSign, HARICA, iTrusChina,
 MSC Trustgate.com, Sectigo, SHECA, SSC, SSL.com, SwissSign, TrustCor, Trustwave, TWCA, OISTE Foundation<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Certificate Consumers:  Microsoft, Mozilla/Thunderbird, Zertificon<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Associate Members: ACAB Council, U.S. Federal PKI, WebTrust<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6">
<font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Interested Parties:  Arno Fiedler, PSW, TeleTrusT, Vigil Security, Nathalie Weiler<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">6. Discussion of approach and deliverables<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">It was agreed to begin a discussion of certificate profiles starting at the S/MIME end entity, working up the chain, in comparison to major requirements and standards. 
 The worksheet currently includes aspects of standards from Mozilla, Gmail and the US Federal PKI (thanks for Wendy Brown’s assistance):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1gEq-o4jU1FWvKBeMoncfmhAUemAgGuvVRSLQb7PedLU%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7Crufus.buschart%40siemens.com%7C036844c5e01443f72a8408d84506de02%7C38ae3bcd95794fd4addab42e1495d55a%7C1%7C1%7C637335243087982647&sdata=haZ8Cw%2BF9FH1p7YjU5UJktduF%2FQVAvopn9KD56BHD7I%3D&reserved=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gEq-o4jU1FWvKBeMoncfmhAUemAgGuvVRSLQb7PedLU/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Certificate Issuers were asked to review their profiles for variance from these settings for discussion, with feedback preferred on the public list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Certificate Consumers were requested if there are technical requirements (must have/can’t have) imposed by their products or services on certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Ben Wilson was requested to check the profile against the Mozilla program requirements. 
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pertaining to Serial Number, it was discussed whether the requirement for 64 unpredictable bits was a legacy of the SHA1 deprecation or a necessary ongoing security
 feature.  It is a requirement of the Mozilla Root Store Policy 5.2.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pertaining to Signature Algorithm, assistance was requested in either obtaining an English translation of BSI TR-03166 or in translating the text from German (with
 particular interest in the use of RSASSA-PSS).  It was noted that ECDSA SHA-512 is not supported under Mozilla, with the question if the same applies to Thunderbird. 
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Pertaining to Validity Period, there was discussion relating to the tradeoffs between shorter validity for crypto agility as championed in TLS, the use of tokens
 found in many S/MIME implementations, and in use cases such as email gateways.  It was proposed that domain certificates would benefit from a separate profile.  Discussion to be continued.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">6. Any Other Business<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Again, WG members are encouraged to submit relevant standards and requirements to the public list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">7. Next call<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The next call will take place on September 2, 2020 at 11:00am Eastern Time. 
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h3><b><font size="4" color="black" face="Calibri"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:13.5pt">Adjourned</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></h3>
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