<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As an interested third party, I endorse this. Thank you for taking the initiative.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:06 AM Pedro FUENTES via Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>OISTE would endorse this initiative<br id="m_-2761486818548924217lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16 Sep 2024, at 16:32, Ryan Dickson via Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:Servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank">Servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><span id="m_-2761486818548924217gmail-docs-internal-guid-dabc9e57-7fff-7530-e6cf-650f2349e97a"><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">All,</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">In light of recent events where research from WatchTowr Labs demonstrated how threat actors could exploit WHOIS to obtain fraudulently issued TLS certificates [1] and follow-on discussions in MDSP [2][3], we drafted an introductory proposal [4] to sunset the use of WHOIS for identifying Domain Contacts.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The proposal sets a prohibition against relying on WHOIS to identify Domain Contacts beginning 11/1/2024.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">While publicly-trusted CA Owners are required to disclose and maintain in-use DCV methods to the CCADB [5], the collected data lacks specificity, hindering our ability to assess the extent of reliance on WHOIS and the potential impact of transitioning away from it.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt">Feedback on the proposal (preferably using comments or suggestions on the Pull Request via GitHub) along with volunteers for endorsers would be appreciated.<br><br></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Thanks,</span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Ryan</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">P.S., I apologize if this effort is redundant to discussions already taking place in the Forum, I was traveling last week and am catching up on email.</span></div><br><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">[1] <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__labs.watchtowr.com_we-2Dspent-2D20-2Dto-2Dachieve-2Drce-2Dand-2Daccidentally-2Dbecame-2Dthe-2Dadmins-2Dof-2Dmobi_&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=1CJcldkOKNaH6Tu9kiTliBmTMzTdtFrQ0USL5juRHSkA78re2Z_FuT3Hr1z1Cd6m&s=qZzpnP-57sE4nQ6LxHM50ULVrjSKSIk2Fccl0d8PESE&e=" target="_blank">https://labs.watchtowr.com/we-spent-20-to-achieve-rce-and-accidentally-became-the-admins-of-mobi/</a></span></div><div style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">[2] <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_a_mozilla.o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