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<span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I see, it was added as a hint for CAs to also assist in improving these open source linting tools like some CAs have done in the past. As part of a SHOULD, it would be helpful to get some CAs involved into building and improving existing lints.</span>
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<br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I can remove the parenthesis and add it as a clear SHOULD if this is helpful.</span>
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<br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Will this work better?</span>
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<br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Dimitris </span>
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<br><span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">PS: I will respond to Ryan's post later this week after consulting with the co-sponsors.</span>
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<p>May 21, 2024 10:31:41 Inigo Barreira <Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com>:</p>
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Can you be more specific? Which part of the ballot redline seems to need an update/removal? <br><br><br>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;">DZ.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;">May 20, 2024 21:03:50 Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>>:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Aptos", sans-serif;"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US;font-size:11.0pt;">Hi Dimitris,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Aptos", sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US;font-size:11.0pt;">I don´t know if the “(help to improve)” is adding any additional hidden requirement. IMO, I´d remove that.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Aptos", sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;"> Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org">servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>En nombre de </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Servercert-wg<br><b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 20 de mayo de 2024 19:57<br><b>Para:</b> CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Asunto:</b> [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC-75 - Pre-sign linting</span></p>
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<h1 style=" mso-style-link: "Título 1 Car"; margin-left: 0cm; font-weight: bold; font-size: 24pt; font-family: "Aptos", sans-serif;mso-style-priority: 9; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; margin-right: 0cm; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">SC-75 Pre-sign linting</h1>
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<p id="bkmrk-this-pull-request-pr">There have been numerous compliance incidents publicly disclosed by CAs in which they failed to comply with the technical requirements described in standards associated with the issuance and management of publicly-trusted TLS Certificates. However, the industry has developed open-source tools, linters, that are free to use and can help CAs avoid certificate misissuance. Using such linters before issuing a precertificate from a Publicly-Trusted CA (pre-issuance linting) can prevent the mis-issuance in a wide variety of cases.</p>
<p id="bkmrk-the-following-motion">The following motion has been proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by Corey Bonnell of Digicert and Ben Wilson of Mozilla.</p>
<p id="bkmrk-you-can-view-and-com">You can view the GitHub pull request representing this ballot <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fpull%2F518&data=05%7C02%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7C6f327905edc541f7c3fd08dc79078854%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638518320528526443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=K%2Fj0547gXHAx%2BIIdsH7NYx0qS8GhfFW5j76EVHHFr4Q%3D&reserved=0">here</a>. </p>
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<p id="bkmrk-modify-the-%22baseline">MODIFY the "Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted TLS Server Certificates" based on Version 2.0.4 as specified in the following redline:</p>
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<p id="bkmrk-this-ballot-proposes">This ballot proposes a Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:</p>
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