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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I’d like to point out that probably many CA is not a Software-Development company and relies on suppliers for their CA systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Rgds<br>
Roman<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Servercert-wg <servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Martijn Katerbarg via Servercert-wg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Dienstag, 21. Mai 2024 10:09<br>
<b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos <dzacharo@harica.gr>; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg@cabforum.org>; Inigo Barreira <Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC-75 - Pre-sign linting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regarding the contributing… I’m not even sure it should be a SHOULD.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I like adding it as a guidance for CAs, especially any new CA that may start from scratch reading the BRs. So how about “CAs are encouraged to contribute to existing
open-source linters”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black">Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org">servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> on behalf of Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 21 May 2024 at 10:05<br>
<b>To: </b>Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC-75 - Pre-sign linting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I see, it was added as a hint for CAs to also assist in improving these open source linting tools like some CAs have done in the past. As part of a SHOULD, it would be helpful to get some CAs
involved into building and improving existing lints. <br>
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I can remove the parenthesis and add it as a clear SHOULD if this is helpful. <br>
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Will this work better? <br>
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Dimitris <br>
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PS: I will respond to Ryan's post later this week after consulting with the co-sponsors.
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">May 21, 2024 10:31:41 Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Sure, in the last para of section 4.3.1.2, the sentence “… but CAs SHOULD use (and help improve) the Linting tools …” and I was suggesting removing that “(and help improve)” because IMO this canīt
go in the main requirement/recommendation and “the help to improve” be seen as another requirement instead of a suggestion or willing to act which I think is what you had in mind.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 20 de mayo de 2024 22:01<br>
<b>Para:</b> Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>><br>
<b>CC:</b> CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC-75 - Pre-sign linting</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hello Inigo,
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Can you be more specific? Which part of the ballot redline seems to need an update/removal?
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Thanks, </span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="ES" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">DZ.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="ES" style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">May 20, 2024 21:03:50 Inigo Barreira <<a href="mailto:Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com">Inigo.Barreira@sectigo.com</a>>:</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="ES" style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Dimitris,</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">I donīt know if the “(help to improve)” is adding any additional hidden requirement. IMO, Iīd remove that.</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Regards</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>En nombre de </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Servercert-wg<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> lunes, 20 de mayo de 2024 19:57<br>
<b>Para:</b> CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Asunto:</b> [Servercert-wg] Ballot SC-75 - Pre-sign linting</span><span lang="ES"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<h1><span lang="ES">SC-75 Pre-sign linting<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<h2 id="bkmrk-summary"><span lang="ES">Summary<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<p id="bkmrk-this-pull-request-pr"><span lang="ES">There have been numerous compliance incidents publicly disclosed by CAs in which they failed to comply with the technical requirements described in standards associated with the issuance and management of publicly-trusted
TLS Certificates. However, the industry has developed open-source tools, linters, that are free to use and can help CAs avoid certificate misissuance. Using such linters before issuing a precertificate from a Publicly-Trusted CA (pre-issuance linting) can
prevent the mis-issuance in a wide variety of cases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p id="bkmrk-the-following-motion"><span lang="ES">The following motion has been proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by Corey Bonnell of Digicert and Ben Wilson of Mozilla.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p id="bkmrk-you-can-view-and-com"><span lang="ES">You can view the GitHub pull request representing this ballot
<a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/518">here</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h2 id="bkmrk-motion-begins"><span lang="ES">Motion Begins<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<p id="bkmrk-modify-the-%22baseline"><span lang="ES">MODIFY the "Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted TLS Server Certificates" based on Version 2.0.4 as specified in the following redline:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="null" style="mso-list:l4 level1 lfo3"><span lang="ES"><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/049237e096650fe01f67780b7c24bd5211ee3038...ada5d6e0db76b32be28d64edd7b0677bbef9c2f5">https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/049237e096650fe01f67780b7c24bd5211ee3038...ada5d6e0db76b32be28d64edd7b0677bbef9c2f5</a> <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<h2 id="bkmrk-motion-ends"><span lang="ES">Motion Ends<o:p></o:p></span></h2>
<p id="bkmrk-this-ballot-proposes"><span lang="ES">This ballot proposes a Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h4 id="bkmrk-discussion-%2811%2B-days"><span lang="ES">Discussion (at least 7 days)<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
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<li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6"><span lang="ES">Start time: 2024-05-20 18:00:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo6"><span lang="ES">End time: on or after 2024-05-27 18:00:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<h4 id="bkmrk-vote-for-approval-%287"><span lang="ES">Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
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<li class="null" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9"><span lang="ES">Start time: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="null" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo9"><span lang="ES">End time: TBD<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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