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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ES link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the subject of this message.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:ES'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Dimitris is leading the call at Inigo’s request due to a medical appointment. Note-well read before Roll-call (but preserved normal order for the minutes structure here).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>1. Roll Call</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Aaron Gable (Let's Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen (Amazon), Abhishek Bhat (eMudhra), Adam Jones (Microsoft), Adriano Santoni (Actalis), Aggie Wang (TrustAsia), Alvin Wang (SHECA), Andrea Holland (VikingCloud), Brianca Martin (Amazon),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Clements (Google), </span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121'>Ben Wilson (Mozilla), </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), David Kluge (Google)</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>, </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Gregory Tomko (GlobalSign), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (VikingCloud),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Jaime Hablutzel (OISTE Foundation), Jay Wilson (Sectigo), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Jos Purvis (Fastly),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Keshava Nagaraju (eMudhra),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Kiran Tummala (Microsoft), Llewellyn Curran (GoDaddy), Lynn Jeun (Visa),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mahua Chaudhuri (Microsoft), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Marco Schambach (IdenTrust), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Michelle Coon (OATI), Miguel Sanchez (Google),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Mrugesh Chandarana (IdenTrust), Nargis Mannan (VikingCloud), Nate Smith (GoDaddy), Naveen Kumar (eMudhra), </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rich Kapushinski (CommScope), Rich Smith (DigiCert),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Rollin Yu (TrustAsia), Ryan Dickson (Google Chrome), Sandy Balzer (SwissSign), Scott Rea (eMudhra), Sissel Hoel (Buypass), Stephen Davidson (DigiCert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems),</span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#0432FF;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:black;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Tathan Thacker (IdenTrust), Tim Hollebeek (DigiCert), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Yashwanth TM (eMudhra), Yoshihiko Matsuo (Japan Registry Services).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>2. Read note-well</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>The note-well was read by Dimitris.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>3. Review of Agenda</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>The Agenda as provided by Inigo was followed for the call.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>4. Minutes<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><ol start=1 type=1><ol start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-36.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Approval of minutes from the <b>February 15,</b> <b>2024</b> Teleconference (minutes have been distributed just prior to the call)</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol><ol start=1 type=1><ol start=1 type=a><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l8 level3 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>The minutes approval is delayed until next meeting due to their very recent posting.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol><ol start=1 type=1><ol start=2 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-36.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Approval of minutes from the <b>March 28, 2024</b> Teleconference (minutes have NOT yet been distributed)</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol><ol start=1 type=1><ol start=2 type=a><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-54.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l8 level3 lfo1'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>The minutes approval is deferred until after posting.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ol></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>5. Membership</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>No current Applications to review.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>6. Issues/Topics</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-18.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3'><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Revocation</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> is topic listed for today, Kiran is invited to comment, but is having audio issues. </span><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris had previously prepared a spreadsheet of some revocation reasons that were under consideration to extend period to more than 5 days with appropriate justification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Clint indicated that a draft document had been prepared and circulated to a small group of folks to review ReasonCode and timelines and some discussion had ensued but it’s not yet ready for main stream.<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#212121;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:-18.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo3'><b><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>PAG</span></b><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> – Discussion on where it should be instatiated. It was agreed it should be handled in the WG where it arose, which is here. Decision to cover it after Ballot Review on today’s call.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>7. Ballots update</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Review of the current ballots situation as per the agenda.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>CURRENT STATUS OF BALLOTS</span></b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo4'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Passed</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo5'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC72: Delete exception to policyQualifiers in EVGs; align with BRs by making them NOT RECOMMENDED. </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo6'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Under PAG</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l17 level2 lfo7'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC70: Clarify the use of DTPs for Domain Control Validation </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l17 level3 lfo7'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>This Ballot was rescinded.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l16 level1 lfo8'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Failed</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l13 level2 lfo9'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>None</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo10'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Voting Period</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l9 level2 lfo11'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>None</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo12'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Discussion Period</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l14 level2 lfo13'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC67 v1: Require domain validation and CAA checks to be performed from multiple Network Perspectives. Ends on 17/4/24.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Ryan indicated that they are adjudicating comments in GitHub and anticipate a 2<sup>nd</sup> round of discussions<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris highlighted interesting discussion surrounding use of VPNs for MPIC which is worth reviewing by the group. Also, on the security question, there should perhaps be some discussion regarding security controls required for the VPN usage<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Ryan – there is no intention of limiting the usage of VPN for this aspect<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l14 level2 lfo13'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SCXX – Compromised/weak keys</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>This item was categorized incorrectly in the Agenda as it is currently pre-ballot and thus it was discussed here instead.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Wayne confirmed it is pre-Ballot still and indicated there has been some discussion on whether to provide a list of resources or let CA’s manage their own. Wayne indicated he was leaning more to leaving up to the CA responsibility, but still looking for feedback. Expectation is that weak key check should be made regardless of key size as requested by Clint.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Tim was ambivalent on Clint’s request. Suggested we just pick a reasonable proposal and proceed. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>Dimitris indicated that during the early versions of the ballot, the WG had tried to describe the set of parameters that each CA needs to take into account in order to generate the proper set of Debian weak keys and it didn't work out so well. It was quite complicated to understand and implement</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Aaron G suggested why not go with a “…repository or equivalent” in the language and then you could cover both scenarios. The 2<sup>nd</sup> question is – what happens when a new group of weak keys is discovered? An explicit enumeration has its benefits.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Wayne said we just need the bar to stop moving…<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Tim indicated the burden is when definitions change, because then we have to re-prove to our auditors that we still meet it under new definition.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>There was general agreement that this particular point of repository vs CA responsibility has been discussed waaaaay too much. Suggestion from Aaron G that a simple list of keys to incorporate from a repository is the easiest path forward.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l14 level3 lfo13'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Debate about which repository to use will be had on the list.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l12 level1 lfo14'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Review Period </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SCXX – Compromised/weak keys</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo15'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>This item is categorized wrong in the Agenda, it is currently pre-Ballot, see above for discussion</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo16'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Draft / Under Consideration</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SCXX – Profiles cleanup ballot – on hold</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC71 – Subscriber agreement and terms of use consolidation </span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level3 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dustin indicated they are behind on this item since he has been on leave and will seek to make progress shortly</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC73 – Introduce linting in the TLS BRs</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level3 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris (who has also been on leave) committed to sending something to the list on this in the next week</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level2 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>SC74 – Clarify CP/CPS structure according to RFC 3647</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l6 level3 lfo17'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris indicated that this ballot is ready to go and should start discussion period shortly</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level1 lfo18'><b><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>PAG</span></b><span lang=EN-IN style='mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> – Discussion regarding SC70</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=disc><ul style='margin-top:0cm' type=circle><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Ben indicated a time limit for joining the PAG had been set to reduce potential of rework or re-discussion. The cut off for that nomination is tomorrow. A Doodle Poll was sent out interested parties to try to establish an appropriate time for the PAG.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Dimitris suggested we use the mailing list instead to distribute the Poll<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'>Dimitris explained the implications of the Bylaws as related to the PAG. The key element is that the Draft Maintenance Guideline should remain in draft state until the PAG process is complete, because this essential claim came in before the end of the IPR review period</span><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>There is not stipulations on how long the PAG should take. The PAG chooses its own Chair and Vice Chair.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Aaron G indicated he could sign into the PAG mailing list but was not getting any messages.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='color:#212121;margin-left:0cm;mso-add-space:auto;mso-list:l15 level2 lfo18'><span lang=EN-IN style='font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Ben indicated they would test and work out the mailing list issues<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>8. Any other business</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>None.</span><span lang=EN-IN style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><br></span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>9. Next Call</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Next call is April 25<sup>th</sup>, 2024. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>10. Meeting Adjournment</span></b><b><span lang=EN-IN style='font-size:13.5pt;color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#212121;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Meeting adjourned.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>