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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Right. We do not want to allow blanket or undisclosed exceptions to the CA/Browser Forum rules, so a generic carve out would do more harm than good. If anyone is aware of local laws that are a challenge for BR compliance, they SHOULD, and in some cases, MUST, bring them to the attention of the Forum so we can take appropriate action.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-Tim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Servercert-wg <servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Servercert-wg<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 16, 2024 4:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Pedro FUENTES <pfuentes@wisekey.com>; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL]- Ballot SC-68: Allow VATEL and VATXI for organizationIdentifier<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 16/1/2024 10:17 π.μ., Pedro FUENTES wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I just wonder if this change could have been made in a more generic way, so it could be applied in other similar cases, where there’s a conflict between the BR and the applicable laws.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>It cannot, because for those "unknown" (to the CA/B Forum) cases, the provisions of 9.16.3 of the BRs or 8.1 of EVG must be followed.<br><br>Dimitris.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 16 Jan 2024, at 09:07, Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Servercert-wg <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><h3><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Purpose of the Ballot</span><o:p></o:p></h3></div><p id=bkmrk-the-ev-guidelines-ha>The EV Guidelines have strict rules in the organizationIdentifier values and require the country code of all currently-allowed Registration Schemes (NTR, VAT, PSD) to follow the ISO 3166-1 for the 2-letter country prefix.<br><br>The organizationIdentifier language mainly came from ETSI EN 319 412-1 and then the SCWG made several modifications. However, there is an exception for Greece specifically for the VAT Registration Scheme that is aligned with Article 215 of <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur-2Dlex.europa.eu_eli_dir_2006_112_oj&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=WWTSPWJ77egdPB9mldguOPd13PQBVjL1VgWSY6TquVs&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2Ojg0MjM6OGJjOWUxZTUwY2Y0YTk4YjRmZTRmZTBhYzQ0MzZkNDcwNDBjY2M3ZDFiNWZkYTJlOGJmZGMwZTVhMDQyNDRhNTpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__eur-2Dlex.europa.eu_eli_dir_2006_112_oj&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv8">Council Directive 2006/112/EC</a> that allows Greece to use the country prefix "EL". In practice, Greece uses the prefix "EL" to identify itself next to the VAT number of all Legal Entities registered/incorporated/established in Greece, and all other European Countries use this prefix to identify Greek VAT numbers. This can easily be verified in the <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ec.europa.eu_taxation-5Fcustoms_vies_-23_vat-2Dvalidation&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=M71CCrWhskmxf-HfnFqOLw8jWXviHQoShfJQquyspJk&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OmJiOTg6Zjk0MjhkOTNlYmEzZDVlOGM5MzJhZmVkMTNiZjBiNGU4MjNiY2M2NDFlYjk2ZDI4MTE4Yzc5NWU2YTdmNDMxODpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ec.europa.eu_taxation-5Fcustoms_vies_-23_vat-2Dvalidation&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTal">VIES VAT number validation website</a> where Greece is listed as"EL".<o:p></o:p></p><p id=bkmrk-there-is-also-counci>There is also <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__data.europa.eu_eli_dir_2020_1756_oj&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=LSOTJmv9nz1vtYcg288tr66dvFEjYa7S7orq6hR7ey4&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OmVmM2M6Y2ZkMDcyZGNiMGUxZDIwNWVkMzNlZjVmM2UxZjcwM2VhZmJhMzNkMTY3ZDMzMTdmNTMyN2U2NTlmYWIzNzJmZjpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__data.europa.eu_eli_dir_2020_1756_oj&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wb">Council Directive 2020/1756</a> amending Directive 2006/112/EC that requires the prefix "XI" for the identification of taxable persons in Northern Ireland.<o:p></o:p></p><p id=bkmrk-this-pull-request-pr>This <a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_cabforum_servercert_pull_473&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=ksobmcC6x_blL7uCgPkkYAdW-7xduQ-_N4BoxPKE4ZU&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OmM0ZTk6NzVhZWU4ODdmMmVjMzZmOTU1NWRiOWFhMTk0ZTg3NjFkM2FmNGYwNDAxY2FmZDliZjI2MjI0MjE4NzFmM2RhMjpoOkY" target="_blank" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_cabforum_servercert_pull_473&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv8">pull request</a> proposes updates to the EV Guidelines to allow those additional prefixes. It also fixes some formatting issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p id=bkmrk-the-following-motion>The following motion has been proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by Ben Wilson of Mozilla and Corey Bonnell of Digicert.<o:p></o:p></p><div><h3><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION BEGINS</span><o:p></o:p></h3></div><p id=bkmrk-this-ballot-modifies>This ballot modifies the “Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of Extended Validation Certificates” (“EV Guidelines”), based on Version 1.8.0.<o:p></o:p></p><p id=bkmrk-modify-the-baseline->MODIFY the EV Guidelines as specified in the following Redline: <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_cabforum_servercert_compare_da89d0e9700c6dd89a8263526addc39f472bf54c&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=G725joOZlGcEvlGClQTdmLHZ_tv7iFiWV7rpKxS87vY&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OjQxMjI6NzVjZGE2NWIzNmNiODBjZmZjMGZlOGY0YWFmZDRhMTY5MWMzYzdhM2U2NDYwZmQ1NGUzMWI4OTgwZTk4ZGJiMDpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_cabforum_servercert_compare_da89d0e9700c6dd89a8263526addc39f472bf54c&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&">https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/da89d0e9700c6dd89a8263526addc39f472bf54c___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OjY1YjM6YzZmMTYzYjAwZTNhNjY1NzRmZTk5MDhiY2I3MTVlMWZmNmQ0OTEwNDc4YWFiNzQ4ZmQ4NzE3ZGY1NWFjYzA1Yzp0OkY</a>.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><div><h3><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0E101A'>MOTION ENDS</span><o:p></o:p></h3></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The procedure for this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 id=bkmrk-forum-12---update-ca><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Start time (8:00 UTC)</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>End time (8:00 UTC)</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Discussion (at least 7 days)<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>2024-01-16<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>on or after 2024-01-23<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Expected Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>TBD<o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal>TBD<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Servercert-wg mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Servercert-wg@cabforum.org">Servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_servercert-2Dwg&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=Vm2EaWVVK5hktalPWfpaS6K3L6BSOHUzRDydq3_HyJI&e=___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMGViOTIyZjIwMDAwZWFhYjFhMDM3OGMwNDhjNmQ2Mzo2OjRkZmM6MDc4NWRkNDNlNWQxZGQzNGEwMDIzZDcxYWJlN2M0OGYxNWIwZGY1ZWU3ODI0ZGJjZjlkMjQzYjZmMjJjNmZkYTpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_servercert-2Dwg&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v 2/url?u=https-3A__lists.cabforum.org_mailman_listinfo_servercert-2Dwg&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY&m=pLBg9yEYzZz6uGZ9yTalH54RHu_MZI1Ch37wv852wbXGmCvaFVFIS9xQyNGMqk_D&s=Vm2EaWVVK5hktalPWfpaS6K3L6BSOHUzRDydq3_HyJI&e=</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:#F62400'><br>WISeKey SA</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:black'>Pedro Fuentes<br></span></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;color:black'>CSO - 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