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<span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">I'm fine with any date. As Ben said, CAs should probably already be implementing these practices so the sooner the better? Are there any objections to using March 15 as the effective date provided we run the ballot this month?</span> <br> <br> <br> <span dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0;">Thanks, </span> <br>
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<p>Jan 9, 2023 17:42:26 Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif"><b>From:</b> Servercert-wg <servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson via Servercert-wg<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 6, 2023 6:08 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <dzacharo@harica.gr><br> <b>Cc:</b> CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg@cabforum.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] Proposal to Incorporate Mozilla's CRL Revocation Reason Code Requirements into the BRs</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif">I am preparing the ballot, but I think that the effective dates should be included in your GitHub version. (Currently at <a href="https://avanan.url-protection.com/v1/url?o=https%3A//github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f&g=ZWJmMjY3Njc2YjRiNjg0Yw==&h=OWFjMmE2ZWM0Nzg4NzIzMjc2ZGYxMjkzMTEyNDI1ODgxZWY3YmI4MjQ4NDUzMmZjMWM4NTQ1ZjA1M2ZiZGRlOA==&p=YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMzA1NzFmNGVjYTM2N2I1ODcyYTM2M2ZjODdiOGM0ZTp2MTpoOkY=" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f"> https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f</a>.) CAs in Mozilla's program should have already been including reason codes in CRLs. Elsewhere, others have suggested March 15 and September 15 as potential effective dates for other ballots, but I'd be willing to say July 1st or July 15th. What are everyone's thoughts?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:44 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Language updated in <a href="https://avanan.url-protection.com/v1/url?o=https%3A//github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/405/commits/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f&g=NTk0NmQ2YjZlYWI3NzVjNA==&h=ZmUxMmU5NWQzYzg3ZDBjZThkNmNkYzFjYWU2NDRmZTllYzkxY2Q3NmEzNDUzNTRhYmVkYTIwMTQ0MmU0MmJhMw==&p=YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMzA1NzFmNGVjYTM2N2I1ODcyYTM2M2ZjODdiOGM0ZTp2MTpoOkY=" target="_blank" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/405/commits/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f"> https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/405/commits/0a07e046326101ef3b57572daebd3cf45ff4840f</a>.<br> <br> I don't see any other unresolved comments. Ben, please do one last review in case I missed something.<br> <br> <br> Thanks,<br> Dimitris.<br> <br> <br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 10:06 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif">I have submitted two comments that I think need to be resolved.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif"><br> I prefer your <a href="https://avanan.url-protection.com/v1/url?o=https%3A//github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/405/files%23r1061778056&g=ZGU3MzkyM2ZlZjY3YmRkYw==&h=Y2I2MWI5ZTA3ZGZiMWQyNThjMTQ1MmU0OGNhY2NlNjk5OTMzNTFhOWI4NGU1MTdlNjRkMjA1ZDY4ZWRiZWU5ZQ==&p=YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzplMzA1NzFmNGVjYTM2N2I1ODcyYTM2M2ZjODdiOGM0ZTp2MTpoOkY=" target="_blank" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/405/files#r1061778056"> earlier comment</a> which says<br> <br> "1. The Subscriber requests in writing, <strong><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">without giving a reason,</span></i></strong> that the CA revoke the ..."<br> <br> I believe this language is simpler as long as this option is available to Subscribers that just want to revoke a certificate and don't want to suggest a specific reason. I assume this is still allowed.<br> <br> <br> <br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=" font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri", sans-serif"><br> +1<br> <br> If you are ok with the first option, I will update the PR.<br> <br> Thanks!<br> Dimitris.<br> <br> <br></p>
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