<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>These have also been published to the <a href="https://cabforum.org/2022/10/13/2022-10-13-minutes-of-the-server-certificate-working-group/">public website at cabforum.org</a>.<br></div><div><br></div><div>----- Original message -----<br></div><div type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Server Certificate Working Group – 13 October 2022</span></span></b></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Attendees: Aaron Poulsen (Amazon), Adam Jones (Microsoft), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Clements (Google), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Daryn Wright (GoDaddy), David Kluge (Google), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Fumi Yoneda (Japan Registry Services), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna Fox (TrustCor Systems), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Fastly), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Kiran Tummala (Microsoft), Lynn Jeun (Visa), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Michelle Coon (OATI), Nargis Mannan (SecureTrust), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Ryan Dickson (Google), Stephen Davidson (DigiCert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Tyler Myers (GoDaddy), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services)</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">1. Read Antitrust Statement</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos Purvis read the antitrust statement.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">2. Review Agenda</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos said that we would add a discussion of the OU attribute in CA certificates as proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos on the list. No other changes were made to the published agenda.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">3. Approval of Minutes from Last Teleconference</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">The minutes from the 29-September call were approved without changes.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">4. Validation Subcommittee Update</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Corey Bonnell said that the group met last week and first discussed the face-to-face meeting. They will work on finalizing the certificate profiles ballot and continue analysis of the use of Applicant and Applicant Representative. They merged a profiles ballot pull request from Dimitris. They continued analysis of the defined terms Applicant and Applicant Representative and identified a number of opportunities for improvement. They will continue at BR section 4.3 at the face-to-face meeting.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">5. Ballot Status</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Discussion Period</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">SC56 - Cleanup ballot</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Corey apologized for the mixup on ballot numbers. Discussion started last Friday morning and no comments requiring changes have been received. He is planning to begin the voting tomorrow.</span></span></span><br></p><div><br></div><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos encouraged everyone to carefully review the ballot before the voting period begins to ensure that the ballot clarifies but doesn’t change any actual requirements.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Voting Period</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><b style="font-weight:normal;" id="qt-gmail-docs-internal-guid-ec744ac0-7fff-3180-5c78-0e7b830aff69"></b></span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><b style="font-weight:normal;" id="qt-gmail-docs-internal-guid-ec744ac0-7fff-3180-5c78-0e7b830aff69"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">None</span></span></span></b><br></p></li></ul><p><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Review Period</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">None</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Draft Ballots Under Consideration</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Revival of Debian Weak Keys</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Chris Kemmerer said that Leo Grove will be looking for endorsers at the face-to-face.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">SLO/Response for CRL & OCSP Responses</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">David Kluge said that this ballot is on hold pending the discussion of broader changes to revocation requirements.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Incorporation of Mozilla Revocation Reason Codes</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ben Wilson was not on the call to provide an update.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">6. Any Other Business</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Update on elections for SCWG</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos said that Inigo Barreira has been elected as the next chair and will begin in November. There have been no nominees for vice chair.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Support for multiple OU fields in CA certificates</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dimitris said that he sent a </span></span></span><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/pull/394" style="text-decoration:none;"><span style="color:rgb(17, 85, 204);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><u>link to a pull request that would permit multiple OU fields in CA certificates</u></span></span></span></a><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"> to the list. The current BRs don’t restrict the inclusion of the OU field in CA certs, but the profiles ballot does. However, research on existing certificates found no CA certificates containing OU fields. Given this, Dimitris proposed that we should add language to the profiles ballot to prohibit the OU field in CA certificates. Dimitris plans to create a new PR that will disallow OU in CA certificates.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Doug Beattie asked about rules for other Subject fields.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dimitris said that the profiles ballot does contain some minor normative changes, but more substantial changes should be discussed and balloted separately.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Doug asked if the change would apply to roots or cross-certificates?</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dimitris said that he would have to check.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Corey said that he recalls there being a carve-out for cross-certificates. He also noted that this would affect ICAs that chain to roots trusted for TLS.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dimitris said that he will review the requirements and we can continue the discussion at the face-to-face meeting.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Mads Henriksveen asked where to find the BR redline and Corey said that the same link shows both the EVGL and BR redlines for the ballot.</span></span></span><br></p></li><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos thanked everyone for their support during his time as SCWG Chair.</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">7.  Roll Call</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos read the roll.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">8. Next call: 10-November 2022 at 11AM Eastern (after the face-to-face)</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Adjourn; Immediately convene meeting of CA Browser Forum (same call</span></span></span><br></p></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>Management mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:Management@cabforum.org">Management@cabforum.org</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/management">https://lists.cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/management</a><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>