<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>These have also been published to the <a href="https://cabforum.org/2022/09/01/2022-09-01-minutes-of-the-server-certificate-working-group/">public website at cabforum.org</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original message -----<br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Server Certificate Working Group – 1 September 2022</span></span></b></span><br></div><div type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Attendees: Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Clements (Google), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (Digicert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Daryn Wright (GoDaddy), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Fumi Yoneda (Japan Registry Services), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna Fox (TrustCor Systems), Jos Purvis (Fastly), Kiran Tummala (Microsoft), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Lynn Jeun (Visa), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Michelle Coon (OATI), Nargis Mannan (SecureTrust), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Ryan Dickson (Google), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Vijayakumar (Vijay) Manjunatha (eMudhra), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services)</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">1. Read Antitrust Statement</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos Purvis read the antitrust statement.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">2. Review Agenda</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">No changes were made to the agenda.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">3. Approval of Minutes from Last Teleconference</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">The minutes from the 18-August call were approved without changes.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">4. Validation Subcommittee Update</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Corey Bonnell said that the subcommittee had a productive meeting last week. There were two main topics, first being the review of two PRs for the certificate profiles ballot: adding “Pending Prohibition” as a defined term, and setting an effective date for the changes. The second main topic was preliminary discussions on the relationship between Subscriber/Applicant and CA when they are the same entity. In the next meeting the plan is to review BR sections where the term Applicant is used to see what can be done to clarify these relationships.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">5. Ballot Status</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Discussion Period</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">None</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Voting Period</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">None</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ballots in Review Period</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">None</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-indent:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Draft Ballots Under Consideration</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Revival of Debian Weak Keys</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Chris Kemmerer said that Roman from SwissSign asked a question that had been previously answered about the ballot language. Chris plans to repost the ballot along with a plea for endorsers. Further discussion can occur during the formal discussion period.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;margin-left:36pt;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">SLO/Response for CRL & OCSP Responses</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:72pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Clint Wilson said that they are planning to survey CAs via CCADB and use the responses to shape the ballot. The survey will be crafted in an upcoming meeting.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">6. Any Other Business</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Election of Chair / Vice Chair</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos said that he is not running for reelection. Please consider nominating someone!</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Doug Beattie said that he will also not run for chair.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos reminded everyone that you should not nominate someone without first gaining their approval to do so.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Interested Party Membership Applications: Baker Tilly and NENA</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Jos said that both IPR agreements have been submitted and we have confirmed the authority of the signers.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:36pt;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dean Coclin said that both applications are in order. No objections were raised.</span></span></span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre;"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;" role="presentation"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Ben said that he had posted a ‘CRL revocation reason code’ ballot proposal to the list and has one endorser. He is seeking an additional endorser.</span></span></span><br></p></li></ul><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">7.  Roll Call</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Dean Coclin read the roll.</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">8. Next call: 15-September 2022 at 11AM Eastern</span></span></span><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-position:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial;"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Adjourn; Immediately convene meeting of CA Browser Forum (same call)</span></span></span><br></p></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>