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    <p>Thanks for your suggestion, Martijn. We ourselves wouldn't object
      to this addition, though we'd certainly like to poll the community
      on their thoughts.<br>
      <br>
      We see that the vulnerability you address has been assigned <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-26320">https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2022-26320</a>,
      with <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://fermatattack.secvuln.info/">https://fermatattack.secvuln.info/</a>
      looking like the main resource for this issue. We also note (per
      that latter site) that Let's Encrypt has updated Boulder to check
      for this vulnerability (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder/pull/5853">https://github.com/letsencrypt/boulder/pull/5853</a>).<br>
      <br>
      The Debian weak key and ROCA vulnerabilities have been known lo
      these many years (although not all CAs had sufficient safeguards
      in place, and the sections of the BRs provided less than
      comprehensive guidance on what those safeguards should be - hence
      this ballot  initiative).<br>
      <br>
      Since CVE-2022-26320 was only published March 14 2022, one
      alternative would be would be to defer a decision on the Fermat
      attack language to another, later ballot, but we again invite
      community input on incorporating this suggestion into our current
      proposed ballot.<br>
      <br>
      One practical question (not addressed in our current language)
      would be the deadline for CAs to add the checks required in this
      ballot, with our thought being to place it in the nearer term
      (some few months after ballot passage/review) but not immediately
      upon adoption of the ballot. This particularly is of interest for
      any changes/checks required for CVE-2022-26320, but in our view
      any deadline should be considered to apply to all vulnerabilities
      addressed in this ballot.<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      <br>
      Chris K</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2022 4:53 AM, Martijn Katerbarg
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Hi Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">I would like to propose an additional check to
            the proposed language so it includes checking for the Close
            Primes vulnerability. For this I’d like to propose we add to
            6.1.1.3 (4):<br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">“c) In the case of Close Primes vulnerability,
            the CA SHALL reject weak keys identified within 100 rounds
            using Fermat’s factorization method”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US">Martijn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Servercert-wg
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org"><servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org></a> <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Chris Kemmerer via Servercert-wg<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 31 March 2022 16:43<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jaime Hablutzel via Servercert-wg
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] [EXTERNAL]-Re: SCXX
                Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">We are pleased to return to discussion of
            this proposed ballot, which we've reprinted immediately
            below.<br>
            <br>
            Based on the discussion thus far, we've addressed Corey's
            point by adding the <b>bolded </b>line re: which
            modulus/exponents a CA MUST check. (We generally agree with
            Jaime's suggestion that CAs <i>should </i>check the
            modulus only but don't see it as crucial to explicitly state
            this in the ballot.)<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p>We've also updated the version in the proposal.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">If this
            ballot proceeds the next available designation would be
            SC55.<br>
            <br>
            Many thanks,<br>
            <br>
            Chris K<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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             <br>
            This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the
            Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as
            follows, based on Version 1.8.2: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            Proposed ballot language: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            <i>4.9.1.1 Reasons for Revoking a Subscriber Certificate </i><br>
            <br>
             <br>
            Replace: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            4. The CA is made aware of a demonstrated or proven method
            that can easily compute the Subscriber’s Private Key based
            on the Public Key in the Certificate (such as a Debian weak
            key, see <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debian.org%2FSSLkeys&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8x9ca1VgcsVSmIGKG9ElbGst6JfuPXSu2vKAH0w9rVw%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>)
            <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            With: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            4. The CA is made aware of a demonstrated or proven method
            that can easily compute the Subscriber’s Private Key (such
            as those identified in 6.1.1.3(4)). <br>
            <br>
            --- <br>
            <br>
            <i>6.1.1.3. Subscriber Key Pair Generation </i><br>
            <br>
             <br>
            Replace: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            The CA SHALL reject a certificate request if one or more of
            the following conditions are met: <br>
            <br>
            1. The Key Pair does not meet the requirements set forth in
            Section 6.1.5 and/or Section 6.1.6; <br>
            2. There is clear evidence that the specific method used to
            generate the Private Key was flawed; <br>
            3. The CA is aware of a demonstrated or proven method that
            exposes the Applicant's Private Key to compromise; <br>
            4. The CA has previously been made aware that the
            Applicant's Private Key has suffered a Key Compromise, such
            as through the provisions of Section 4.9.1.1; <br>
            5. The CA is aware of a demonstrated or proven method to
            easily compute the Applicant's Private Key based on the
            Public Key (such as a Debian weak key, see <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debian.org%2FSSLkeys&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8x9ca1VgcsVSmIGKG9ElbGst6JfuPXSu2vKAH0w9rVw%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>).
            <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            With: <br>
            <br>
             <br>
            The CA SHALL reject a certificate request if one or more of
            the following occurs: <br>
            <br>
            1) The requested Public Key does not meet the requirements
            set forth in Sections 6.1.5 and/or 6.1.6; <br>
            2) The CA is aware of a demonstrated or proven method that
            exposes the Subscriber's Private Key to compromise; <br>
            3) The CA has previously been made aware that the
            Subscriber's Private Key has suffered a Key Compromise, such
            as through the provisions of Section 4.9.1.1; <br>
            4) The Public Key corresponds to an industry demonstrated
            weak Private Key, in particular: <br>
            a) In the case of ROCA vulnerability, the CA SHALL reject
            keys identified by the tools available at <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcrocs-muni%2Froca&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=YUBrn1dQs%2FL37Q%2BABmbpLpAOUq4pICFaLfhYFe%2BZZqo%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/crocs-muni/roca</a>
            or equivalent. <br>
            b) In the case of Debian weak keys (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.debian.org%2FSSLkeys&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8x9ca1VgcsVSmIGKG9ElbGst6JfuPXSu2vKAH0w9rVw%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>),
            the CA SHALL reject at least keys generated by the flawed
            OpenSSL version with the combination of the following
            parameters: <br>
            <br>
            i) Big-endian 32-bit, little-endian 32-bit, and
            little-endian 64-bit architecture; <br>
            ii) Process ID of 0 to 32767, inclusive; <br>
            iii) All RSA Public Key lengths supported by the CA up to
            and including 4096 bits; <br>
            iv) rnd, nornd, and noreadrnd OpenSSL random file state. <br>
            <br>
            For Debian weak keys not covered above, the CA SHALL take
            actions to minimize the probability of certificate issuance.
            <br>
            <br>
            <b>CAs MUST check for Debian weak keys for all RSA modulus
              lengths and exponents that they accept.</b> <br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/28/2021 3:55 PM, Jaime Hablutzel
              via Servercert-wg wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">It could be helpful to be a little
                  bit more explicit on the fact that the required check
                  is against the modulus only as it could avoid d<span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm">evelopers
                    to implement this check against full public keys,
                    which </span>can lead to:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                    level1 lfo1">Some CAs could unknowingly embark
                    themselves in the onerous task of generating the
                    affected key pairs for each different public
                    exponent, which is not really required.<o:p></o:p></li>
                  <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                    level1 lfo1">Because of the higher amount of work
                    required for supporting/maintaining the check in
                    this way, some CAs might mistakenly omit checking
                    some subscriber keys, e.g. they might have in their
                    blocklists only the affected public keys with the
                    public exponent set to 65537, even when they
                    (unintentionally) support subscriber keys with other
                    values for the public exponent.<o:p></o:p></li>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 03:02
                      Rob Stradling <<a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@sectigo.com</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">> I
                            think we can merely state that CAs must
                            check for Debian weak keys for all RSA
                            modulus lengths and exponents that they
                            accept. Using a comparison of the modulus
                            (or its hash) is essentially an
                            implementation detail that we don’t need to
                            explicitly mandate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Thanks
                            Corey.  That makes sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
                              Corey Bonnell<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 27, 2021
                              18:43<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Rob Stradling; Jaime Hablutzel;
                              CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public
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                              <b>Cc:</b> Christopher Kemmerer<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL]-Re:
                              [Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal:
                              Debian Weak keys <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Hi Jaime.  Ooh, you're
                                    right!  The affected OpenSSL
                                    versions generate the same
                                    predictable moduli regardless of the
                                    public exponent value.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yes,
                                    that’s great to know; thanks for
                                    pointing it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">>
                                  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">What's the best way to
                                    capture all this in the ballot?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I
                                    think we can merely state that CAs
                                    must check for Debian weak keys for
                                    all RSA modulus lengths and
                                    exponents that they accept. Using a
                                    comparison of the modulus (or its
                                    hash) is essentially an
                                    implementation detail that we don’t
                                    need to explicitly mandate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Corey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Rob Stradling <<a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@sectigo.com</a>>
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                                        <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October
                                        27, 2021 5:31 AM<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> Jaime Hablutzel <<a href="mailto:jhablutz@WISEKEY.COM" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jhablutz@WISEKEY.COM</a>>;
                                        CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG
                                        Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                        <b>Cc:</b> Corey Bonnell <<a href="mailto:Corey.Bonnell@digicert.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Corey.Bonnell@digicert.com</a>>;
                                        Christopher Kemmerer <<a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chris@ssl.com</a>><br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                        [EXTERNAL]-Re: [Servercert-wg]
                                        SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian
                                        Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Hi Jaime.  Ooh,
                                      you're right!  The affected
                                      OpenSSL versions generate the same
                                      predictable moduli regardless of
                                      the public exponent value.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">So yes, the optimal
                                      approach seems to be for CAs to
                                      use Debian weak key blocklists
                                      that are based on only the RSA
                                      modulus.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">Corey's point applies
                                      if a CA chooses instead to
                                      implement a Debian weak key
                                      blocklist of (for example)
                                      SubjectPublicKeyInfos with public
                                      exponent 65537.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">What's the best way
                                      to capture all this in the ballot?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US"> Jaime Hablutzel<br>
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 24,
                                        2021 23:25<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> Rob Stradling; CA/B
                                        Forum Server Certificate WG
                                        Public Discussion List<br>
                                        <b>Cc:</b> Corey Bonnell;
                                        Christopher Kemmerer<br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                        [EXTERNAL]-Re: [Servercert-wg]
                                        SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian
                                        Weak keys </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi, I might be
                                            (very) wrong here, but,
                                            shouldn’t blocklists be
                                            based only on the RSA
                                            modulus for different key
                                            sizes so validation
                                            implementations match the
                                            module only irrespective of
                                            whatever the public exponent
                                            is? or does the affected
                                            prime generation random
                                            source seed from the public
                                            exponent too?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On 22 Oct
                                                  2021, at 08:58, Rob
                                                  Stradling via
                                                  Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> ...my opinion is that we
                                                    should introduce a
                                                    new requirement such
                                                    that CAs must check
                                                    for Debian weak keys
                                                    for all RSA modulus
                                                    lengths and
                                                    exponents that they
                                                    accept. CAs are
                                                    uniquely positioned
                                                    to prevent the usage
                                                    of these weak keys
                                                    in the web PKI, so
                                                    there is a security
                                                    benefit in mandating
                                                    such universal
                                                    checks.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Corey.  Yeah, OK.  You've
                                                    persuaded me.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">FWIW, my tools at <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_CVE-2D2008-2D0166%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DgZAtYdIgwjZ_F9FpjPlUFmh9SQve9WXOyzZCTDLhsH4%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dOj6qi%2FF9ZwWk4fS%2BQq3Ucz6JokRWbKGCVsLNyYJzK4%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166</a> only
                                                    support 65537 at the
                                                    moment.  I guess
                                                    I'll just have to
                                                    wait and see if
                                                    anyone asks for
                                                    other public
                                                    exponent values to
                                                    be supported.  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI
                                                    Emoji",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">🙂</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> Corey
                                                      Bonnell<br>
                                                      <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
                                                      October 19, 2021
                                                      19:48<br>
                                                      <b>To:</b> Rob
                                                      Stradling;
                                                      Christopher
                                                      Kemmerer; CA/B
                                                      Forum Server
                                                      Certificate WG
                                                      Public Discussion
                                                      List<br>
                                                      <b>Subject:</b> RE:
                                                      [Servercert-wg]
                                                      SCXX Ballot
                                                      proposal: Debian
                                                      Weak keys </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi
                                                          Rob,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Comments
                                                          inline.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">AFAICT, in the affected Debian
                                                          OpenSSL
                                                          versions:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">  - "openssl req -newkey" had a
                                                          hardcoded
                                                          public
                                                          exponent of
                                                          65537 (see </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_openssl_openssl_blob_OpenSSL-5F0-5F9-5F8f_apps_req.c-23L768%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DVu5UXlPv7euZNJXCO15ReMLK_k5MyC3YaUliVn6DQcU%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136232894%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dV2nAqxk5HxFKvhzIWuFMpj03cgq%2BNAHSccBAOFJ4EQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8f/apps/req.c#L768</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">  - "openssl genrsa" defaulted to
                                                          65537, but
                                                          provided a
                                                          "-3"
                                                          command-line
                                                          option to use
                                                          a public
                                                          exponent of 3
                                                          instead (see </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_openssl_openssl_blob_OpenSSL-5F0-5F9-5F8f_apps_genrsa.c%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DMXbwubefERoNQfWd4kC0f7rxRrBl5yB1YZ2Y3OmPQoo%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Rqz2JvLfMmLq8G6K1BzsRglmsNOnUQ061l5XfP3ZX4g%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8f/apps/genrsa.c</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As
                                                          you point out,
                                                          the
                                                          command-line
                                                          tooling
                                                          bundled with
                                                          OpenSSL 0,9.8
                                                          generally
                                                          restricted the
                                                          allowed
                                                          exponent.
                                                          However, the
                                                          RSA key
                                                          generation API
                                                          allowed any
                                                          exponent to be
                                                          specified [1],
                                                          so it is
                                                          possible that
                                                          a custom
                                                          application
                                                          passed
                                                          exponent
                                                          values besides
                                                          3 or 65537 to
                                                          the RSA key
                                                          generation
                                                          function.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Are there any good reasons to
                                                          continue to
                                                          permit the
                                                          public
                                                          exponent 3 ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Judging
                                                          from Censys,
                                                          it appears
                                                          that there are
                                                          some publicly
                                                          trusted
                                                          certificates
                                                          containing RSA
                                                          keys with an
                                                          exponent of 3,
                                                          so there will
                                                          presumably be
                                                          a (minor)
                                                          ecosystem
                                                          impact if an
                                                          exponent value
                                                          of 3 were
                                                          banned. That
                                                          being said,
                                                          exponents
                                                          smaller than
                                                          65537 are
                                                          outside the
                                                          SHOULD-level
                                                          exponent range
                                                          since BR
                                                          v1.1.3 (now in
                                                          section 6.1.6)
                                                          so perhaps
                                                          it’s time to
                                                          consider
                                                          strengthening
                                                          the SHOULD to
                                                          a MUST.
                                                          Probably such
                                                          a change would
                                                          be outside the
                                                          scope of this
                                                          ballot,
                                                          though.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The "openssl-vulnkey" tool that
                                                          Debian used to
                                                          ship only
                                                          provided
                                                          blocklists for
                                                          keys with
                                                          public
                                                          exponents of
                                                          65537, so
                                                          should we take
                                                          that as a sign
                                                          that CAs
                                                          needn't
                                                          perform a
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          key check when
                                                          the public
                                                          exponent is
                                                          anything other
                                                          than 65537 ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">While
                                                          the precedent
                                                          set by
                                                          accepted
                                                          remediations
                                                          for incidents
                                                          surrounding
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys has been
                                                          for CAs to
                                                          check the
                                                          lists
                                                          distributed in
                                                          the
                                                          openssl-blacklist
                                                          Debian
                                                          package, my
                                                          opinion is
                                                          that we should
                                                          introduce a
                                                          new
                                                          requirement
                                                          such that CAs
                                                          must check for
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys for all
                                                          RSA modulus
                                                          lengths and
                                                          exponents that
                                                          they accept.
                                                          CAs are
                                                          uniquely
                                                          positioned to
                                                          prevent the
                                                          usage of these
                                                          weak keys in
                                                          the web PKI,
                                                          so there is a
                                                          security
                                                          benefit in
                                                          mandating such
                                                          universal
                                                          checks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Corey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">[1] <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_openssl_openssl_blob_OpenSSL-5F0-5F9-5F8f_crypto_rsa_rsa-5Fgen.c-23L78%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DBZt9wGuErHLlj4PgA-Q_BWX-TmBE7NrL_QZcjyFCmLs%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=hMaYHOG%2B8wSNVUpKO5x3%2BojdR%2BQ048WwvCHZQDTB1jw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8f/crypto/rsa/rsa_gen.c#L78</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Rob
                                                          Stradling <<a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@sectigo.com</a>> <br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
                                                          October 19,
                                                          2021 11:31 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <<a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chris@ssl.com</a>>;
                                                          CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>>;
                                                          Corey Bonnell
                                                          <<a href="mailto:Corey.Bonnell@digicert.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">Corey.Bonnell@digicert.com</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Corey.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">AFAICT, in the affected Debian
                                                          OpenSSL
                                                          versions:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">  - "openssl req -newkey" had a
                                                          hardcoded
                                                          public
                                                          exponent of
                                                          65537 (see </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_openssl_openssl_blob_OpenSSL-5F0-5F9-5F8f_apps_req.c-23L768%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DVu5UXlPv7euZNJXCO15ReMLK_k5MyC3YaUliVn6DQcU%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VeNPVcMlOCOuIVZYK17WxVv06s6pSQqhmXWfHmN4C1M%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8f/apps/req.c#L768</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">  - "openssl genrsa" defaulted to
                                                          65537, but
                                                          provided a
                                                          "-3"
                                                          command-line
                                                          option to use
                                                          a public
                                                          exponent of 3
                                                          instead (see </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__github.com_openssl_openssl_blob_OpenSSL-5F0-5F9-5F8f_apps_genrsa.c%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DMXbwubefERoNQfWd4kC0f7rxRrBl5yB1YZ2Y3OmPQoo%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=Rqz2JvLfMmLq8G6K1BzsRglmsNOnUQ061l5XfP3ZX4g%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/blob/OpenSSL_0_9_8f/apps/genrsa.c</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Are there any good reasons to
                                                          continue to
                                                          permit the
                                                          public
                                                          exponent 3 ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The "openssl-vulnkey" tool that
                                                          Debian used to
                                                          ship only
                                                          provided
                                                          blocklists for
                                                          keys with
                                                          public
                                                          exponents of
                                                          65537, so
                                                          should we take
                                                          that as a sign
                                                          that CAs
                                                          needn't
                                                          perform a
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          key check when
                                                          the public
                                                          exponent is
                                                          anything other
                                                          than 65537 ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Servercert-wg
                                                          <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
                                                          on behalf of
                                                          Corey Bonnell
                                                          via
                                                          Servercert-wg
                                                          <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 19
                                                          October 2021
                                                          15:31<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <<a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">chris@ssl.com</a>>;
                                                          CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt;background:#FAFA03"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">CAUTION:
                                                          This email
                                                          originated
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                                                          links or open
                                                          attachments
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                                                          recognize the
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi
                                                          Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Apologies
                                                          for the late
                                                          reply. I
                                                          noticed that
                                                          the current
                                                          proposed
                                                          language has
                                                          no guidance
                                                          regarding RSA
                                                          exponents. I
                                                          think it would
                                                          be useful to
                                                          specify the
                                                          expectations
                                                          in this regard
                                                          (whether the
                                                          CA must check
                                                          for weak keys
                                                          for all key
                                                          lengths and
                                                          exponent
                                                          combinations
                                                          accepted/supported
                                                          by the CA, or
                                                          if checking
                                                          weak key lists
                                                          for only
                                                          exponents 3
                                                          and 65537 is
                                                          sufficient,
                                                          etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Corey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Servercert-wg
                                                          <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On
                                                          Behalf Of </b>Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer via
                                                          Servercert-wg<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                                                          October 15,
                                                          2021 10:33 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Rob
                                                          Stradling <<a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rob@sectigo.com</a>>;
                                                          Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>; CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews
                                                          <<a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jsha@letsencrypt.org</a>><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Thank
                                                          you, Rob, and
                                                          shall watch
                                                          for that
                                                          update.
                                                          Meanwhile we
                                                          are doing a
                                                          final-final
                                                          pass through
                                                          our draft
                                                          language for
                                                          clarity and
                                                          will send it
                                                          early next
                                                          week.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">Chris
                                                          K<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Meanwhile,
                                                          we've cycled
                                                          our draft
                                                          language
                                                          through 
                                                          another review
                                                          and have made
                                                          IIRC only one
                                                          or two minor
                                                          edits for
                                                          clarity (h/t
                                                          BenW).</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
                                                          10/14/2021
                                                          9:49 AM, Rob
                                                          Stradling
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Today I rediscovered that I'd
                                                          previously
                                                          generated the
                                                          RSA-8192
                                                          blocklists
                                                          back in
                                                          December 2009,
                                                          and that
                                                          they're still
                                                          available at </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fsecure.sectigo.com-252Fdebian-5Fweak-5Fkeys-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987811664-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DBknvgeWEnZ4pvV0PZHrsqaYgYgzgs4wad1Y3lmy1FWk-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DzzVoaIwOBGmJbK59JUU8ZW6-rpOfDM9LW4-DOaggMQQ%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7PK3XDqp3fKOWwkVd%2FT%2F8FZJ6hB6jaSaU0z4pqS8XaE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://secure.sectigo.com/debian_weak_keys/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">.  When I compared the old and new
                                                          RSA-8192
                                                          blocklists, I
                                                          found that
                                                          ~0.8% of the
                                                          "rnd" keys are
                                                          different.  It
                                                          looks like,
                                                          for reasons
                                                          unknown, the
                                                          "OpenSSL
                                                          random file
                                                          state"
                                                          misbehaved
                                                          occasionally
                                                          over the 8
                                                          month run that
                                                          ended
                                                          recently.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">I'll report back once I've
                                                          regenerated
                                                          and verified
                                                          the
                                                          problematic
                                                          keys.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Rob
                                                          Stradling <a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rob@sectigo.com></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 23
                                                          September 2021
                                                          19:17<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a>;
                                                          Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a>;
                                                          CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a>;
                                                          Rob Stradling<a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rob@sectigo.com></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> BTW, in case it helps, I'm
                                                          about half way
                                                          through
                                                          generating a
                                                          full set of
                                                          RSA-8192
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys, which
                                                          (when
                                                          complete) I'll
                                                          add to the </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987811664-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DhEYtpXP81bOYFl0bdDSzbg8zxn7gozJ2bXAzE3ZPLwQ-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DCZuzMqYs2tJKnr9PUCkV8xEr-EQLZuEnpygT0nUUNYQ%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=A5DYlUl68xZ%2FC6fq%2BQ72bEW87PPrUIp0Cm2xNVmSZRg%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> repositories.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">It took nearly 8 months (using
                                                          just a single
                                                          core of a
                                                          fairly modest
                                                          CPU), but it
                                                          finally
                                                          finished! 
                                                          Repositories
                                                          updated.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Servercert-wg <a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org></a> on
                                                          behalf of Rob
                                                          Stradling via
                                                          Servercert-wg <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 13
                                                          May 2021 15:42<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a>;
                                                          Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a>;
                                                          CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          This email
                                                          originated
                                                          from outside
                                                          of the
                                                          organization.
                                                          Do not click
                                                          links or open
                                                          attachments
                                                          unless you
                                                          recognize the
                                                          sender and
                                                          know the
                                                          content is
                                                          safe.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> iii) All RSA Public Key
                                                          lengths
                                                          supported by
                                                          the CA up to
                                                          and including
                                                          4096 bits;</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> ...</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> For Debian weak keys not
                                                          covered above,
                                                          the CA SHALL
                                                          take actions
                                                          to minimize
                                                          the
                                                          probability of
                                                          certificate
                                                          issuance.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Hi Christopher.  What sort of
                                                          "actions" are
                                                          envisaged
                                                          here?  If a CA
                                                          is processing
                                                          a certificate
                                                          request that
                                                          contains a
                                                          (for example)
                                                          RSA-4088
                                                          public key
                                                          (i.e., a key
                                                          size not
                                                          covered by an
                                                          available
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          list), either
                                                          the CA is
                                                          going to issue
                                                          the cert or
                                                          they're not. 
                                                          What,
                                                          concretely,
                                                          does "minimize
                                                          the
                                                          probability of
                                                          certificate
                                                          issuance"
                                                          actually mean?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Why not remove that "SHALL"
                                                          sentence and
                                                          change point
                                                          iii to: "<span style="color:black;background:white">iii) All RSA Public Key lengths
                                                          supported by
                                                          the CA." ?</span></span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">BTW, in case it helps, I'm about
                                                          half way
                                                          through
                                                          generating a
                                                          full set of
                                                          RSA-8192
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys, which
                                                          (when
                                                          complete) I'll
                                                          add to the </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987821618-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3D34YXT3egxh7Xtc5k5gqy8idcbz9cgokAIz7o8Xwbh94-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DtaqinDAOLRdSvETy9ob78hR_-KPxttqWcUNY_M86mTY%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=h1nffB7MM%2BalufXFr2RtqzJn5BTTV1mdwVtTcY0R25U%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> repositories.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 13
                                                          May 2021 15:12<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Rob
                                                          Stradling <a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rob@sectigo.com></a>;
                                                          Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a>;
                                                          CA/B Forum
                                                          Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          originated
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                                                          attachments
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                                                          recognize the
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">We
                                                          deeply
                                                          appreciate the
                                                          useful
                                                          discussion in
                                                          this thread
                                                          regarding this
                                                          issue. We
                                                          especially
                                                          applaud the
                                                          efforts of
                                                          HARICA and
                                                          Sectigo to
                                                          independently
                                                          generate more
                                                          comprehensive
                                                          lists of
                                                          potentially
                                                          affected
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys. As Rob
                                                          Stradling
                                                          observed
                                                          through his
                                                          crt.sh
                                                          research
                                                          (20210107, <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgist.github.com-252Frobstradling-252Fa5590b6a13218fe561dcb5d5c67932c5-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987821618-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DQXz4cOmARv-252Fg8-252FJF2NNEW2-252BSbjHJu1pv8X6vjLCx7io-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DEARvfcpJ6O_cJ0KioLW9U0gNj00u2-_njjGSKcTRtE8%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=8FnTcPwhH9onW1cBdQFh39X%2F0Rx%2FMMO0VrxTRiNjgdE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gist.github.com/robstradling/a5590b6a13218fe561dcb5d5c67932c5</a>)
                                                          of the five
                                                          most utilized
                                                          algorithm/key
                                                          size
                                                          populations,
                                                          two are ECC
                                                          (so not
                                                          impacted by
                                                          the Debian
                                                          weak key
                                                          issue) and
                                                          three are RSA
                                                          (2048, 4096,
                                                          and 3072 bit
                                                          length, in
                                                          that order).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">As
                                                          of their most
                                                          recent
                                                          messages it
                                                          appears that
                                                          these two
                                                          organizations
                                                          have
                                                          independently
                                                          generated
                                                          comprehensive
                                                          lists
                                                          identifying
                                                          all RSA-2048
                                                          and -4096 bit
                                                          length keys.
                                                          (We understand
                                                          RSA-3072
                                                          length keys
                                                          are also
                                                          available.)
                                                          This offers
                                                          the
                                                          possibility
                                                          that complete
                                                          lists, if
                                                          accepted as
                                                          authoritative,
                                                          could be
                                                          accessed by
                                                          the community
                                                          to help
                                                          prevent
                                                          exploitation
                                                          of this
                                                          vulnerability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">It
                                                          was also noted
                                                          (by the
                                                          representative
                                                          from Let's
                                                          Encrypt) that
                                                          the ROCA
                                                          vulnerability
                                                          is presently
                                                          identified
                                                          through use of
                                                          a tool
                                                          supported
                                                          externally. It
                                                          was suggested
                                                          that this
                                                          resource be
                                                          archived in a
                                                          manner that
                                                          ensures
                                                          availability.
                                                          (Our proposed
                                                          language
                                                          points to "<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252Fcrocs-2Dmuni-252F-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987831575-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DZQMlATqs-252BM7Vr3aIgjdrH06gaOrkgAPTbMkM4gcSROs-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DgoTnhfES-zV16ifNjJ90Y_GUk39wftGwqMJiZKuw5aY%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=ACBH3LODAg%2FBQA2nRuJ1bKJ%2FqtFNG875uchf9r4kkVQ%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/crocs-muni/</a>roca
                                                          or
                                                          equivalent.")<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">We
                                                          think our
                                                          present ballot
                                                          language
                                                          (reproduced at
                                                          the end of
                                                          this message)
                                                          provides
                                                          appropriately
                                                          focused
                                                          guidance to
                                                          CAs. If
                                                          available,
                                                          we'd certainly
                                                          like to also
                                                          see the
                                                          HARICA/Sectigo
                                                          lists (which
                                                          CAs could use
                                                          for the
                                                          majority of
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          key use cases)
                                                          captured
                                                          somewhere in
                                                          this ballot
                                                          language. We
                                                          are agnostic
                                                          as to 1) where
                                                          exactly these
                                                          resources
                                                          might be
                                                          maintained and
                                                          2) where this
                                                          ballot places
                                                          directions to
                                                          these
                                                          resources - an
                                                          annex to the
                                                          current
                                                          requirements,
                                                          a separate
                                                          CA/BF guidance
                                                          document or
                                                          within
                                                          Sections <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.9.1.1%2F6.1.1.3&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xHV9XUpJR9TEbOf6kZk5n5wQez7Ve84F5OdBB4kMMy0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">4.9.1.1/6.1.1.3</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Our
                                                          intent is to
                                                          ensure that 1)
                                                          clear,
                                                          accurate
                                                          guidance on CA
                                                          expectations
                                                          is provided
                                                          and 2) any
                                                          resources
                                                          assisting CAs
                                                          in meeting
                                                          these
                                                          expectations
                                                          are fully
                                                          described,
                                                          publicly
                                                          available
                                                          (somewhere)
                                                          and with
                                                          reliable links
                                                          provided. The
                                                          language
                                                          below, we
                                                          feel, meets
                                                          the first
                                                          requirement.
                                                          We'd
                                                          appreciate
                                                          input on how
                                                          to best meet
                                                          the second.
                                                          (Note that <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__ssl.com_%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3Dj-4qIhXvNMe9dfS8B8CWq0sSP-IOQRNSRmpjiPXIFZw%26m%3DJnxStoHpP62BM2-15Vtby3qBQbCdQrSyCNPjVNH_IS8%26s%3DSGnteTNpPS1X4ickvt5qbC2WDrpValWXK42R9uvwO04%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=7p1D5zNiIJclp99%2BvaAEj6XYFWM6gQNKp7oX2aMUisM%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">SSL.com</a> would be happy to
                                                          support the
                                                          community by
                                                          hosting any of
                                                          these as
                                                          publicly
                                                          accessible
                                                          resources,
                                                          whether solo
                                                          or alongside
                                                          other
                                                          organizations.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Chris K <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">--- Motion Begins
                                                          --- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">This ballot modifies
                                                          the “Baseline
                                                          Requirements
                                                          for the
                                                          Issuance and
                                                          Management of
Publicly-Trusted Certificates” as follows, based on Version 1.7.4: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Proposed ballot
                                                          language: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span lang="EN-US">4.9.1.1 Reasons
                                                          for Revoking a
                                                          Subscriber
                                                          Certificate</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Replace: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">4. The CA is made
                                                          aware of a
                                                          demonstrated
                                                          or proven
                                                          method that
                                                          can easily
                                                          compute the
                                                          Subscriber’s
                                                          Private Key
                                                          based on the
                                                          Public Key in
                                                          the
                                                          Certificate
                                                          (such as a
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          key, see <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.debian.org-252FSSLkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987831575-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DpXeTXYoS8oYMQteThIRSdhISQokGG4nL-252BHSymGxAwPg-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DZtytHt-KbbrRxo2oN_oCa2ihhQEPcupL52pOSa3xs9U%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kG5LdmnjWxcdqraBS1PtwcpmIt3C4PpSv7d8rIF4Pi0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">With: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">4. The CA is made
                                                          aware of a
                                                          demonstrated
                                                          or proven
                                                          method that
                                                          can easily
                                                          compute the
                                                          Subscriber’s
                                                          Private Key
                                                          (such as those
                                                          identified in
                                                          6.1.1.3(4)). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">--- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><span lang="EN-US">6.1.1.3.
                                                          Subscriber Key
                                                          Pair
                                                          Generation</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">Replace: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">The CA SHALL reject a
                                                          certificate
                                                          request if one
                                                          or more of the
                                                          following
                                                          conditions are
                                                          met: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">1. The Key Pair does
                                                          not meet the
                                                          requirements
                                                          set forth in
                                                          Section 6.1.5
                                                          and/or Section
                                                          6.1.6; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">2. There is clear
                                                          evidence that
                                                          the specific
                                                          method used to
                                                          generate the
                                                          Private Key
                                                          was flawed; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">3. The CA is aware of
                                                          a demonstrated
                                                          or proven
                                                          method that
                                                          exposes the
                                                          Applicant's
                                                          Private Key to
                                                          compromise; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">4. The CA has
                                                          previously
                                                          been made
                                                          aware that the
                                                          Applicant's
                                                          Private Key
                                                          has suffered a
                                                          Key
                                                          Compromise,
                                                          such as
                                                          through the
                                                          provisions of
                                                          Section
                                                          4.9.1.1; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">5. The CA is aware of
                                                          a demonstrated
                                                          or proven
                                                          method to
                                                          easily compute
                                                          the
                                                          Applicant's
                                                          Private Key
                                                          based on the
                                                          Public Key
                                                          (such as a
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          key, see <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.debian.org-252FSSLkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987831575-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DpXeTXYoS8oYMQteThIRSdhISQokGG4nL-252BHSymGxAwPg-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DZtytHt-KbbrRxo2oN_oCa2ihhQEPcupL52pOSa3xs9U%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=kG5LdmnjWxcdqraBS1PtwcpmIt3C4PpSv7d8rIF4Pi0%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">With: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">The CA SHALL reject a
                                                          certificate
                                                          request if one
                                                          or more of the
                                                          following
                                                          occurs: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">1) The requested
                                                          Public Key
                                                          does not meet
                                                          the
                                                          requirements
                                                          set forth in
                                                          Sections 6.1.5
                                                          and/or 6.1.6; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">2) The CA is aware of
                                                          a demonstrated
                                                          or proven
                                                          method that
                                                          exposes the
                                                          Subscriber's
                                                          Private Key to
                                                          compromise; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">3) The CA has
                                                          previously
                                                          been made
                                                          aware that the
                                                          Subscriber's
                                                          Private Key
                                                          has suffered a
                                                          Key
                                                          Compromise,
                                                          such as
                                                          through the
                                                          provisions of
                                                          Section
                                                          4.9.1.1; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">4) The Public Key
                                                          corresponds to
                                                          an industry
                                                          demonstrated
                                                          weak Private
                                                          Key, in
                                                          particular: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">a) In the case of
                                                          ROCA
                                                          vulnerability,
                                                          the CA SHALL
                                                          reject keys
                                                          identified by
                                                          the tools
                                                          available at <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252Fcrocs-2Dmuni-252Froca-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987841531-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DpVWa4-252Fu9mO6gfEAN2FHOMx83i-252FGSUcG-252BfzyDoHm1xKs-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D6j9rei_kmtaqpNr-93i7Jp1C7q5YNaJtJJ2z3Rn5FzE%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=sOc0jxBMRO1Bh391LQToPIwo6fE6epoku2J9wRkRDDI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/crocs-muni/roca</a> or
                                                          equivalent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">b) In the case of
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys (<a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.debian.org-252FSSLkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987841531-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DfJSWwzvoeepBzwSexsg-252FFSKZKusdynxlt-252F1gItUiii0-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D7VJmjfUviaQVQ3rIxm7xE-dFcYL1TLUk2yNWY4hFx0U%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eXY%2FgzPBMkokDS%2B6t4X7VWv1q8W%2FX4E0dP2BiMb0tUw%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys</a>),
                                                          the CA SHALL
                                                          reject at
                                                          least keys
                                                          generated by
                                                          the flawed
                                                          OpenSSL
                                                          version with
                                                          the
                                                          combination of
                                                          the following
                                                          parameters: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">i) Big-endian 32-bit,
                                                          little-endian
                                                          32-bit, and
                                                          little-endian
                                                          64-bit
                                                          architecture; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">ii) Process ID of 0
                                                          to 32767,
                                                          inclusive; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">iii) All RSA Public
                                                          Key lengths
                                                          supported by
                                                          the CA up to
                                                          and including
                                                          4096 bits; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">iv) rnd, nornd, and
                                                          noreadrnd
                                                          OpenSSL random
                                                          file state. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">For Debian weak keys
                                                          not covered
                                                          above, the CA
                                                          SHALL take
                                                          actions to
                                                          minimize the
                                                          probability of
                                                          certificate
                                                          issuance. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span lang="EN-US">--- Motion Ends ---<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
                                                          1/18/2021 3:34
                                                          PM, Rob
                                                          Stradling
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">> I'm mid-way through
                                                          generating the
                                                          RSA-4096 keys.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The RSA-4096 private keys and
                                                          blocklists are
                                                          now in </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fprivate-5Fkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987851488-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3Dt2XnHbMAXRIJHGzz-252BLi4gptSfi957l-252Fkz5fcaUc4PxA-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DiSbz-XCr-uFk_7Y8gJ0DA2ii9QYdRcBI5WcrvGeE55Q%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=VvQQuIbR%2BqP5yDO1MHaxa6YH9D6uekftx9SfVBUuclE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/private_keys</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> and</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fopenssl-5Fblocklists-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987851488-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3D-252B-252Fmznq3F0GbWZjrE1G08DqSXBOxYTLtIF1l7pLatjoU-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG%25207RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D-tHYY-qeEG6kULte0FSWXNcttvh6n3BUnjh8PTDXi-c%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=huKEGpourXRt3TnJg1AB7gB5zyDmtnmewZqeAWP2KeI%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/openssl_blocklists</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The RSA-2048 and RSA-4096 private
                                                          keys in </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FHARICA-2Dofficial-252Fdebian-2Dweak-2Dkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987861437-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DFb5kG1Ob413KX19BP-252B37xpIahSiKi2FIZ5NfuZ-252FkuPU-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D_lfhBqavAtNpmBCedDWRhR5JY_praNbAngJx0m7i14E%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=gLStQ%2FdZMNlTHeOzXWQicLfvEEZEiaIC%2BTDegv5hRzs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/HARICA-official/debian-weak-keys</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> (which only covers 2 of the 3
                                                          word size /
                                                          endianness
                                                          combinations)
                                                          are identical
                                                          to the
                                                          equivalents
                                                          in </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fprivate-5Fkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987861437-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DoDDkulWGG70BklQLLMR0GsX-252FRIy20y-252FKtw9gGijGyhE-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DyAkqXLZo2IvXlCZvKvbFvweWp1zicZGNjpQ-S6gHQbY%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=z63G6rqaPoyohAlfkvVynfGRagm5g8H0J7nYUBZqZGo%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/private_keys</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 14
                                                          January 2021
                                                          18:39<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Rob
                                                          Stradling <a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rob@sectigo.com></a>; CA/B
                                                          Forum Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a>;
                                                          Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black" lang="EN-US">CAUTION:
                                                          This email
                                                          originated
                                                          from outside
                                                          of the
                                                          organization.
                                                          Do not click
                                                          links or open
                                                          attachments
                                                          unless you
                                                          recognize the
                                                          sender and
                                                          know the
                                                          content is
                                                          safe.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
                                                          14/1/2021
                                                          12:30 π.μ.,
                                                          Rob Stradling
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Thanks Dmitris.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">So far I've generated the RSA-2048
                                                          and RSA-3072
                                                          keys using </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fkey-5Fgenerator-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987871399-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3D4kKGwenlWGRmGjkIWofWWWnykgyNAgmJj1knMJ9PFz4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DNAsWm8iu6UPJcqogRr7ZHylAINg9o87jFWyCbM_GxlE%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=hDuv%2BiXo64WgTEIKwzmnMVnmmFP2tR1HM6tbtOBgcZg%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/key_generator</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> and uploaded them to </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fprivate-5Fkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987871399-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DDS2Fb707J-252BWD3UlBsOMtUWBl-252B5JkoU3S9twMJn8eSps-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DwLahGmkoShePVAd3354Vg-KIUIG_bUnevY1465It5Jk%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=jQzFbtq8Yl4qipII%2BhQ2nc714BTT9rjpe9MS9H8wHl8%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/private_keys</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">, and I've generated the
                                                          corresponding
                                                          blocklists and
                                                          uploaded them
                                                          to </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FCVE-2D2008-2D0166-252Fopenssl-5Fblocklists-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987871399-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DJtYLdAD8pwpvivoIfMXAeEjofoK0FqoijWEb4Sc9OV4-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DNrxlbUT4xWxoifiZhepNwMg-9wFwdQwvVmKKxNVBuk8%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=3PW%2FKRq1pCTqLdjZwW55wK7d5CeO%2F3YvC%2FSyfUBQw%2BA%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://github.com/CVE-2008-0166/openssl_blocklists</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">.  My RSA-2048 blocklists exactly
                                                          match the ones
                                                          from the
                                                          original
                                                          Debian
                                                          openssl-blacklist
                                                          package.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">I'm mid-way through generating the
                                                          RSA-4096 keys.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Let's compare keys when we're both
                                                          done.  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI
                                                          Emoji",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">🙂</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US"><br>
                                                          Certainly :-)
                                                          the RSA-2048
                                                          keys already
                                                          match the
                                                          fingerprints
                                                          from the
                                                          openssl-blacklist
                                                          Debian
                                                          package.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          We did this
                                                          work several
                                                          months ago but
                                                          never found
                                                          the time to
                                                          make it
                                                          publicly
                                                          available. We
                                                          managed to
                                                          break down the
                                                          big task and
                                                          run jobs in
                                                          parallel which
                                                          made things a
                                                          bit more
                                                          interesting.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It's nice we
                                                          did this
                                                          independently,
                                                          I guess it
                                                          increases the
                                                          accuracy level
                                                          of the
                                                          resulted keys
                                                          :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Dimitris
                                                          Zacharopoulos
                                                          (HARICA) <a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 13
                                                          January 2021
                                                          21:49<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Rob
                                                          Stradling <a href="mailto:rob@sectigo.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rob@sectigo.com></a>; CA/B
                                                          Forum Server
                                                          Certificate WG
                                                          Public
                                                          Discussion
                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a>;
                                                          Jacob
                                                          Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a>;
                                                          Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          Do not click
                                                          links or open
                                                          attachments
                                                          unless you
                                                          recognize the
                                                          sender and
                                                          know the
                                                          content is
                                                          safe.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear
                                                          friends,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          HARICA has
                                                          generated the
                                                          weak keys (RSA
                                                          2048 and 4096
                                                          bit lengths)
                                                          from the
                                                          vulnerable
                                                          openssl
                                                          package. We
                                                          will generate
                                                          3072 bit keys
                                                          as well and
                                                          add them soon.
                                                          The
                                                          methodology is
                                                          described in
                                                          the following
                                                          GitHub repo
                                                          along with the
                                                          produced keys:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252FHARICA-2Dofficial-252Fdebian-2Dweak-2Dkeys-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987881346-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3D61WsoKxsDa5-252FjBab75Y-252FZG4PbcoE3RVkCWg-252BsfY2Aww-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DdWL9G_dD07M3-kQ4faHXjdMzoGF9wF5hEGlN2IrPwiA%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=0brL%2BGDdZ1I5yLLl4nBeHllHSoftTBuZGS%2Fn3q4kyoo%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/HARICA-official/debian-weak-keys</a><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US">Please
                                                          review and let
                                                          us know if you
                                                          spot any
                                                          issues or
                                                          problems with
                                                          our approach
                                                          and
                                                          methodology.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          As always,
                                                          please use
                                                          other people's
                                                          work at your
                                                          own risk.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On
                                                          7/1/2021 2:25
                                                          μ.μ., Rob
                                                          Stradling via
                                                          Servercert-wg
                                                          wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">I've used crt.sh to produce a
                                                          survey of key
algorithms/sizes in currently unexpired, publicly-trusted server
                                                          certificates:</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgist.github.com-252Frobstradling-252Fa5590b6a13218fe561dcb5d5c67932c5-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987881346-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3D4qveGxYahVQ6FbihVosw69bsGUs7hG1ytgI6YLxqYbY-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D0JiuTeERFFPZRGiB5foBRJZ5kJjHk51DCLjQbBVwSxc%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MoenCd%2FvAYaP%2FQqEr3eJX0va1tBLQ6W6JkBSA3vEpTs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://gist.github.com/robstradling/a5590b6a13218fe561dcb5d5c67932c5</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">The four most popular choices are
                                                          no surprise:
                                                          RSA-2048,
                                                          P-256,
                                                          RSA-4096, and
                                                          P-384. 
                                                          openssl-blacklist
                                                          covers
                                                          RSA-2048 and
                                                          RSA-4096, and
                                                          ECC keys are
                                                          implicitly not
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Fifth most popular is RSA-3072,
                                                          with over 3
                                                          million
                                                          unexpired,
                                                          publicly-trusted
                                                          server certs. 
openssl-blacklist doesn't cover RSA-3072, but ISTM that this is a key
                                                          size that CAs
                                                          will want to
                                                          permit.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US">Some of the lesser used key sizes
                                                          are mostly
                                                          likely due to
                                                          Subscriber
                                                          typos (e.g.,
                                                          2408 and 3048
                                                          were probably
                                                          intended to be
                                                          2048, 4048 was
                                                          probably
                                                          intended to be
                                                          either 2048 or
                                                          4096, etc),
                                                          but some of
                                                          the other ones
                                                          look like they
                                                          were
                                                          deliberately
                                                          chosen (e.g.,
                                                          2432 is
                                                          2048+384).  Is
                                                          it worth
                                                          generating
                                                          Debian weak
                                                          keys/blocklists
                                                          for any of
                                                          these key
                                                          sizes?</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fnvlpubs.nist.gov-252Fnistpubs-252FSpecialPublications-252FNIST.SP.800-2D57pt1r5.pdf-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987891313-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DrG1bgcAgL7P3RtCaCJ0cZTcYPkcUhTlsR4J6ulGFgso-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3DzehaaELHzHzxLDM3dCTeAYaSLMufH4svdbHT74RDcq0%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=vIK7sBftJDBuoKnRT2r6KzScuNTAJGy8ERKOMcilgIs%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-57pt1r5.pdf</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> (Table 4, p59) permits RSA-2048
                                                          until the end
                                                          of 2030,
                                                          whereas </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.sogis.eu-252Fdocuments-252Fcc-252Fcrypto-252FSOGIS-2DAgreed-2DCryptographic-2DMechanisms-2D1.2.pdf-26data-3D04-257C01-257Crob-2540sectigo.com-257Ca8c9d97cd4114ebf508708d9930d343d-257C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7-257C0-257C0-257C637702508987891313-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C2000-26sdata-3DgCbutfTj362g-252BHqbrbYgcpm5etqbhCvUFpp8E2UYinE-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DeuGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM%26r%3D-bX5hBm1IdRDykQ-dBR8tsFRCM4v1VXUyG7RZa2WqPY%26m%3DfMDCutmeJbXlHHWIZLMy2UAZB79bm_AVGAAADmUsNAE%26s%3D2FZ19CpL6_a-dWd0zh1d-4HiMpn4pWyZ0lsH3f1k140%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7Cmartijn.katerbarg%40sectigo.com%7C0fc747f6575d439bb8fa08da1324bc86%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C637843347136389109%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=C46Pj%2FLYs%2BQCN58VkTA27vVyOdW%2BunLI5p2TOQJBjEA%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">https://www.sogis.eu/documents/cc/crypto/SOGIS-Agreed-Cryptographic-Mechanisms-1.2.pd
                                                          f</span></a></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt" lang="EN-US"> permits RSA-2048 only until the
                                                          end of 2025. 
                                                          It is of
                                                          course
                                                          possible that
                                                          quantum
                                                          computing will
                                                          render RSA
                                                          obsolete
                                                          before
                                                          Subscribers
                                                          need to think
                                                          about which
                                                          larger RSA
                                                          keysize they
                                                          want to
                                                          migrate to;
                                                          however, it
                                                          seems prudent
                                                          to also plan
                                                          for the
                                                          possibility
                                                          that RSA will
                                                          survive and
                                                          that some
                                                          other RSA
                                                          keysize(s)
                                                          might become
                                                          popular.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Servercert-wg <a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org></a> on
                                                          behalf of Rob
                                                          Stradling via
                                                          Servercert-wg <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a><br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b> 06
                                                          January 2021
                                                          16:08<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> Jacob
Hoffman-Andrews <a href="mailto:jsha@letsencrypt.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><jsha@letsencrypt.org></a>;
                                                          Christopher
                                                          Kemmerer <a href="mailto:chris@ssl.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><chris@ssl.com></a>; CA/B
                                                          Forum Server
                                                          Certificate WG
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                                                          List <a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><servercert-wg@cabforum.org></a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Servercert-wg] SCXX Ballot proposal: Debian Weak keys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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