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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>The following have also been posted to <a href="https://cabforum.org/2022/01/20/2021-01-06-minutes-of-the-server-certificate-working-group/">the public website at cabforum.org</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (</span><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com" title="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | Controls & Trust Verification</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Management <management-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of Doug Beattie via Management <management@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, 7 January, 2022 at 07:13<br><b>To: </b>management@cabforum.org <management@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cabfman] [DRAFT] 1/6/2022 Minutes of the Server Certificate Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for your input on the Attendance list. We had a bug in the script to pull the names from the attendance sheet into the full tally but it’s corrected now and the updated full attendance for the meeting is the following:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Adam Jones (Microsoft)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Adrian Mueller (SwissSign)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Andrea Holland (SecureTrust)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Ben Wilson (Mozilla)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Bruce Morton (Entrust)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span 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(GoDaddy)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Marcelo Silva (Visa)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Peter Miskovic (Disig)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Rae Ann Gonzales (GoDaddy)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Rebecca Kelley (Apple)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Ryan Dickson (Google)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Stephen Davidson (Digicert)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Tim Hollebeek (Digicert)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Tyler Myers (GoDaddy)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Vijayakumar (Vijay) Manjunatha (eMudhra)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Wayne Thayer (Fastly)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#7E3794'>Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services)</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Server Certificate Working Group – 6 January 2022</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Attendees: Adam Jones (Microsoft), Adina Lozada Suess (Amazon), Andrea Fosatti (Andrea Fossati), Ben Stander (OATI), Brittany Randall (GoDaddy), Chris Czajczyc (Chris Czajczyc), Clemens Wanko (ACAB Council), Clint Wilson (Apple), Davut Tokgöz (E-tugra), Diego Velasquez (Diego Velasquez), Don Sheehy (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Dr. Noorul Halimin Mansol (Pos Digicert Sdn. Bhd.), Emily Stark (Google), Frank Steinfeldt (D-TRUST), Harshprabha Aggarwal (India PKI Forum), Ian McMillan (Microsoft), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Jin Park (KPMG Korea), John Noll (Apple), Joris Minolla (D-TRUST), Kalev Pihl (SK ID Solutions AS), Kathleen Wilson (Mozilla), Lo Nyan Tjing (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd), Man Ho (Certizen Limited), Markus Wichmann (TeleTrust), Nick Sullivan (Cloudflare), Peter Bowen (Apple), Rachel McPherson (TrustCor Systems), Rashmi Jha (Microsoft), Russ Housley (Russ Housley), Stephanie Skoro (OATI), Sun Shengnan (CFCA), Tim Crawford (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Toria Chen (SHECA), Tuğba Özcan (Kamu SM), Vijay Kumar (India PKI Forum), Wang Chunlan (GDCA), Wayne Thayer (Fastly), Yin Qingjian (360 Browser)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>1. Read Antitrust Statement</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos Purvis read the antitrust statement.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>2. Roll Call</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos read the roll.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>3. Review Agenda</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>No changes were made to the agenda.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>4. Approval of Minutes from Last Teleconference</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The minutes from the 9-December call were approved without changes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The minutes for Face-to-Face meeting 54 as posted on the wiki were approved without changes.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>5. Validation Subcommittee Update</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tim Hollebeek said that there was no meeting over the holidays so there was no update.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>6. NetSec Subcommittee Update</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Clint Wilson said that the subcommittee met on Tuesday and is working on transitioning to the new working group. Some items in progress stay with the Server Certificate WG and others will transition to the new WG. The risk assessment is ongoing. There is also a small ballot to update a definition in the drafting stage. The subcommittee will continue to meet until the WG commences.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wayne Thayer asked when the WG would begin to operate. Dean Coclin said that January 15th is set as that date. Wayne mentioned that everyone who wishes to participate should send an email declaring their participation before then.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>7. Ballot Status</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Discussion Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballot SC52 version 2: </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Specify CRL Validity Intervals in Seconds</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> (Tim)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tim said the ballot has expired and a new ballot number will need to be assigned and another discussion period started.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tim suggested that we extend the 3-week expiration for discussion periods the next time we update the bylaws. Jos suggested adding a pause button. Tim said that the purpose is to avoid having “dead” ballots, but that 90 days seems like a more reasonable limit. Tim said that he would add this to the issues list on GitHub.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Voting Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:3.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>None</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Review Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo7;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballot SC50: Remove the Requirements of Section 4.1.1</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos said that the review period for this ballot had ended.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Draft Ballots Under Consideration</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo9;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballot SC53: Sunset for SHA-1 OCSP Signing</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Corey Bonnell said that he circulated a proposed ballot on the list prior to the holidays. Two members agreed to endorse and a ballot number has been assigned. Corey plans to begin discussion next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>8. Any Other Business</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>None</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>9. Next call: January 20th, 2022 at 11AM Eastern</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Adjourn; Immediately convene meeting of CA Browser Forum (same call)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>