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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>These were also published <a href="https://cabforum.org/2021/11/12/2021-10-28-minutes-of-the-server-certificate-working-group/">to the public website (cabforum.org).</a> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Server Certificate Working Group – </span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>28 October <span style='color:black'>2021</span></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Attendees: </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ali Gholami (Telia), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Chris McMillan (Visa), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (Digicert), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), India Donald (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Inigo Barreira (Sectigo), Joanna Fox (TrustCor Systems), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Kati Davids (GoDaddy), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo), Michelle Coon (OATI), Natalia Kotliarsky (SecureTrust), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rae Ann Gonzales (GoDaddy), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Ryan Dickson (Google), Sebastian Schulz (GlobalSign), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Tyler Myers (GoDaddy), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>1. Read Antitrust Statement</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos Purvis read the antitrust statement.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>2. Roll Call</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dean Coclin read the roll.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>3. Review Agenda</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Clint asked that we add discussion of his ballot.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>4. Approval of minutes from last teleconferenc</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>e</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Last meeting was F2F: Minutes are still being assembled on WIKI. Please review and update your sections! Most sections copied over from Etherpad.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>5. Validation Subcommittee Update</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tim Hollebeek said that the CRL max validity ballot (SC52) is in discussion phase and should be wrapping up soon.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Profiles ballot: Tim said they are discussing how to set the effective date simply and cleanly without making 2 versions of the certificate profile section. Will discuss again next week.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>6. NetSec Subcommittee Update</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Clint Wilson said </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>they roughed out approach for draft ballot for what <span style='color:black'>NetSec </span>would look like as a working group. Need to define how ballots work and how would this WG interact with other Working Groups. They looked at action items from F2F discussions and reviewed open ballots. It was a short meeting but made progress on the idea of working group level NetSec group.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ben Wilson said that the draft charter is on Google Docs. Looking for ideas for where to post for wider review.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Jos Pervis said there are a few options. Share the Google doc link to list, or put on wiki and share it?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ben: Could share on public forum level</span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Jos: Yes, lets wider group review and see what’s the plan and approach. We be chartering as new WG at forum level.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ben: Inclined to share with public list to get more input.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>7. Ballot Status</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Discussion Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>No</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>ne</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Voting Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:3.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>None</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballots in Review Period</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:3.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:3.0pt;margin-left:.75in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>None</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Draft Ballots Under Consideration</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>SC50. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in;vertical-align:baseline'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Clint Wilson said that this takes Section 4.1.1 of the BRs and replaces it with “no stipulation”. It’s about suspicious certificate requests and requires CAs to maintain a database of suspicious certificate requests but there is no rule for how CAs are to process and use that data. This removes that requirement to keep a database. CAs can continue to do something with them if they want. Plan to start discussion period today.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballot SCXX: Debian Weak Keys (Chris)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Chris Kemmerer</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> said he is grateful for all the discussion. He’s pretty sure that the discussion will result in original language will be what’s used with a bit of clarification. This will be early next week then look for endorsers and assignment of ballot number.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4;vertical-align:baseline'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ballot SC34 Account Management (Tobi)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Clint said he thought this ballot was withdrawn then <span style='color:black'>Tobi Josefowitz said </span>yes, it has been withdrawn and the wiki has been updated.<span style='color:black'> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>8. Any Other Business</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>to take care of interested party request from guest speaker</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>9. Next call</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>: November<span style='color:black'> </span>11<span style='color:black'>th, 2021 at 11AM Eastern</span>. Note that daylight savings kicks in for t5he US before this meeting so there is a time change for those that do not change their clocks on this date.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Adjourn; Immediately convene meeting of CA Browser Forum</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <span style='color:black'>(same call)</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>