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These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the
subject of this message, prepared by Scott Rea (eMudhra).<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">CA/Browser Forum Teleconference – 11 April 2024</span></b><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Attendees:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;
mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-themecolor:text1;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-US">Aaron Gable - (Let's Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen -
(Amazon), Abhishek Bhat - (eMudhra), Adam Jones - (Microsoft),
Adriano Santoni - (Actalis S.p.A.), Aggie Wang - (TrustAsia),
Andrea Holland - (VikingCloud), Ben Wilson - (Mozilla), Brianca
Martin - (Amazon), Bruce Morton - (Entrust), Chris Clements -
(Google), Clint Wilson - (Apple), Corey Bonnell - (DigiCert),
Corey Rasmussen - (OATI), David Kluge - (Google), Dimitris
Zacharopoulos - (HARICA), Doug Beattie - (GlobalSign), Dustin
Hollenback - (Microsoft), Gregory Tomko - (GlobalSign), Inaba
Atsushi - (GlobalSign), Jaime Hablutzel - (OISTE Foundation),
Janet Hines - (VikingCloud), Jay WIlson - (Sectigo), Johnny
Reading - (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis - (Fastly), Karina Sirota -
(Microsoft), Keshava Nagaraju - (eMudhra), Kiran Tummala -
(Microsoft), Llew Curran - (GoDaddy), Lynn Jeun - (Visa), Mads
Henriksveen - (Buypass AS), Mahua Chaudhuri - (Microsoft),
Marcelo Silva - (Visa), Marco Schambach - (IdenTrust), Martijn
Katerbarg - (Sectigo), Michelle Coon - (OATI), Miguel Sanchez -
(Google), Mrugesh Chandarana - (IdenTrust), Nargis Mannan -
(VikingCloud), Nate Smith - (GoDaddy), Naveen Kumar - (eMudhra),
Paul van Brouwershaven - (Entrust), Peter Miskovic - (Disig),
Rich Kapushinski - (CommScope), RIch Smith - (DigiCert), Rollin
Yu - (TrustAsia), Ryan Dickson - (Google), Sandy Balzer -
(SwissSign), Scott Rea - (eMudhra), Sissel Hoel - (Buypass AS),
Stephen Davidson - (DigiCert), Tadahiko Ito - (SECOM Trust
Systems), Tathan Thacker - (IdenTrust), Thomas Zermeno -
(SSL.com), Tim Hollebeek - (DigiCert), Tobias Josefowitz -
(Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer - (Fastly), Yashwanth TM -
(eMudhra), Yoshihiko Matsuo - (Japan Registry Services)</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-themecolor:text1;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-US">.</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">1. Roll
Call</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Dimitris indicated the number of participants from
prior SCWG had not changed so we would take the list of
attendees from WebEx (see above).</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">2. Read
Note-well</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Dimitris read the note-well statement.</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">3. Review
Agenda</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">No updates to posted Agenda (see above) were
suggested</span><span
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mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">4. Approval
of Minutes from Last Teleconference</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">There were no minutes to approve since March 28,
2024 Teleconference minutes hadn’t been posted yet.</span><span
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">5. Server
Certificate Working Group Update</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Kiran
provided the update on the SCWG.</span></p>
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EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
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passed</span></p>
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style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">SC70 is
under discussion and will instantiate a PAG to deal with an
essential claim prior to end of discussion period</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Corey B
provided update on Validation SubWG</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Good
discussion held in previous call around identifying DTPs in
context of domain validation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo3"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Some
discussion around method 18 (http validation), brainstorming on
how to identify DTPs as we consider each type of domain
validation. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">6. Code
Signing Certificate Working Group Update</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Bruce
provided the update for CSCWG.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">EV
Guidelines Superseded Ballot was determined that no subsequent
IPR was necessary and that document is now superseded. Dimitris
indicated however that the superseded document needs to be
updated in the repository so anyone who downloads it will get a
“deprecated” notice. </span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Since no IPR
was done on that ballot, there does seem to be some post ballot
processes that were not kicked off. These need to be triggered
even if an IPR is not done. Some process adjustments will be
considered for future. </span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">No movement
on Ballot for removing the EV Guideline References in the CS
BRs. Dimitris requested if anyone had reviewed the draft, but it
was confirmed it was not discussed on last call. A reminder will
be sent to the list.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">CSC24
Timestamping Private Key Protection – is still in progress</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Individual
Membership was approved for researcher from Lawrence Berkley Lab</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Associate
Member status was approved for KeyFactor</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo4"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Longer
discussion around Microsoft’s evaluation of EV vs OV for Code
Signing in terms of whether they would be treated the same in
their products. Microsoft still evaluating and will provide
clarity once their evaluation is complete.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">7. S/MIME
Working Group Update</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Stephen
provided the update for the SMCWG.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="margin-left:35.7pt;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-17.85pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">SMC06 closes
voting in 1 hour – on the path to passing</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="margin-left:35.7pt;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-17.85pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">A number of
discussions have come up regarding items being discussed for
SCWG (particularly BR related) and whether these also need to be
considered and adopted by SMCWG and do they have the same
relevance e.g. MPIC.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="margin-left:35.7pt;mso-add-space:
auto;text-indent:-17.85pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Plan always
was to deprecate legacy profiles and align to reasonable
practices across the industry wherever possible in terms of
multi-purpose hierarchies. Some differences have been
identified, a summary has been posted and discussion has been
initiated.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="margin-left:35.7pt;mso-add-space:auto;
text-indent:-17.85pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Intention is
to reuse as much of the TLS BRs as much as possible, but there
are some logistical issues for transition, and having new
requirements in new sections would be a lot more helpful in
facilitating this.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">8. Forum
Infrastructure Subcommittee Update</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;
mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Jos provided
the update for FIS.</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">We went through GitHub backlog and prioritized
items to be focused on in near term</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">A couple are just documentation oriented e.g. what
does a new member need to know when they join. Solicitation for
relevant content/topics was made.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Request for WG Chairs to document the membership
application and review process in as detailed manner as possible
to capture and perpetuate precedence so that we have consistency
don’t have to revisit similar scenarios over and over.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">There are several automation tasks identified e.g.
construction, updating and tracking of ballot pages. The
addition of an effective date for a ballot needs WGs to set
these requirements as part of their ballot proposals, so that
automation of these can be facilitated.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Other documentation includes: how things are done
in GitHub</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Other documentation: Documentation around
standardization around how balloting numbering is addressed etc.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo6"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:
Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:Symbol;color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:
none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Review of proposal to replace voting by email will
be a long process. Anticipation is that it won’t be a
replacement but rather an alternative – so either the other
option or email could be used.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">9. NetSec
Working Group Update</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Clint
provided the update for the NSWG.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">NS003
Restructure Ballot effective date was settled and discussion has
started (around 2 weeks ago)</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">NS002
Section 4 Ballot is nearing finalization of content and will go
to discussion soon. There is some dependency on NS003 but they
should be pretty close together.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">10. IPR
Update Subcommittee</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Ben provided
the update to the IUS.</span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo8"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Ben will
draft a charter and the scope of this will be much broader than
the PAG that was discussed earlier. </span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo8"><span
style="font-family:Symbol;mso-fareast-font-family:Symbol;mso-bidi-font-family:
Symbol;color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span
style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:
Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">Tim will
work with Ben on the draft.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">11. Any
Other Business</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Dimitris indicated that Forum21 Ballot has passed.
A new Glossary Forum level WG will be started.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Dimitris also indicated that all recordings will
now be sent to Management list so that everyone can review there
if interested. They are set to expire at 90 days, but may be
deleted prior to that after minutes are published prior to that
time.</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Please register for next F2F meeting in Bergamo.
Actalis has added a lot in info to the Wiki now.</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">12. Next
Call</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Next call: 25 April 2024</span><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Aptos;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><b><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;mso-font-kerning:0pt;
mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB" lang="EN-IN">13. Adjourn</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-top:12.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:0cm"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black;
mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB"
lang="EN-IN">Meeting adjourned</span><span
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"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Aptos;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:#212121;mso-font-kerning:0pt;mso-ligatures:none;mso-fareast-language:
EN-GB" lang="EN-IN"></span></p>
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