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Hi Ben,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/4/2024 7:48 μ.μ., Ben Wilson via
Public wrote:<br>
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mentioned during the Forum teleconference of April 11, 2024,
here is a draft charter for a Forum IPR Subcommittee. (This
effort is separate, but somewhat in parallel to the work of
the Patent Advisory Group, which will be handling GoDaddy's
Patent Exclusion Notice, filed Mar. 22, 2024, in relation to
Ballot SC-70.) </p>
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provide your comments or questions.</p>
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IPR Subcommittee Charter<span></span></b></p>
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approval of the CAB Forum by ballot in accordance with
section 5.6 of the Bylaws, the Forum IPR Subcommittee (“FIS”)
is created to
perform the activities as specified in this Charter, subject
to the terms and
conditions of the CA/Browser Forum Bylaws and Intellectual
Property Rights
(IPR) Policy, as such documents may change from time to time.
The definitions
found in the Forum’s Bylaws or IPR Policy shall apply to
capitalized terms in
this Charter.</p>
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I'm not sure the IPR Policy needs to be invoked here. Please take a
look at the Forum Infrastructure SC charter
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cabforum.org/2019/10/08/ballot-forum-10-re-charter-forum-infrastructure-working-group/">https://cabforum.org/2019/10/08/ballot-forum-10-re-charter-forum-infrastructure-working-group/</a>).
Also, is it ok to use the acronym "FIS" as it is also referred in
the Forum Subcommittee Charter?<br>
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primary activity of the FIS shall be to review, and propose
revisions to, the Forum’s IPR Policy, IPR Policy Agreement,
exclusion notice template,
and similar documents.<span> </span>The FIS may perform
other activities ancillary to this primary activity.<span> </span>The
FIS will not create Final Guidelines or
Final Maintenance Guidelines.<span></span></p>
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Based on the last statement, I don't think we need to mention that
this charter is subject to the IPR Policy.<br>
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End Date<span></span></b></p>
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FIS is chartered without a specific end date. However, it
is expected that the FIS will deliver results of its initial
work to the Forum prior
to _____ 2024.<span> </span>Thereafter, the FIS will
continue to exist, but may be dissolved at any time by Forum
ballot.</p>
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If the Subcommittee completes its deliverables and those
deliverables are accepted by the Forum by ballot, the subcommittee
should probably be dissolved automatically. We could renew its
charter or duration if we find something else useful but based on
the current expectations it looks like it will be dissolved if the
proposed documents are approved.<br>
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Chairs and Contacts<span></span></b></p>
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proposer of the ballot adopting this Charter, Ben Wilson,
will act as organizer of the FIS until the first
teleconference is held for the
FIS, at which time the FIS will elect a chair and vice-chair,
either by vote or
by acclamation of those present. The chair and vice-chair will
normally serve
two-year terms.<span> </span>However, the first term will
start upon their election and run through 31 October 2026.<span></span></p>
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Eligible to Participate<span></span></b></p>
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style="margin:0in 0in 8pt;line-height:107%;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif">The
FIS welcomes the participation of any Member
organization of the Forum interested in this work. <span> </span>Forum
Members that have initially declared
their participation in this Subcommittee are:<span></span></p>
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Apple, DigiCert, GoDaddy, Google, HARICA, Let’s
Encrypt, Mozilla, Sectigo, SwissSign, <span></span></p>
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and Voting Structure<span></span></b></p>
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in the FIS shall be limited to Forum members. Voting
shall be egalitarian: all Members shall vote together as a
single class, with
one vote granted to each Member organization. Any decisions of
the FIS needed
to be voted upon by the FIS shall be considered adopted if the
number of votes
in favor exceeds 50% of the votes cast.</p>
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This is not a WG so no voting or voting structure is necessary.<br>
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Means of Communication<span></span></b></p>
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FIS will communicate primarily through listserv-based
email and shall conduct periodic calls or face-to-face
meetings as needed.</p>
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I suggest we combine some elements from
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cabforum.org/2019/10/08/ballot-forum-10-re-charter-forum-infrastructure-working-group/">https://cabforum.org/2019/10/08/ballot-forum-10-re-charter-forum-infrastructure-working-group/</a>
to improve this charter.<br>
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Thanks Ben for putting this together!<br>
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Dimitris.<br>
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