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--></style></head><body lang=en-SE link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Dean,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Not sure I follow. The reason for the ballot is to get the required Forum approval.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards,<br><br>Martijn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=mail-editor-reference-message-container><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black'>Dean Coclin <dean.coclin@digicert.com><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 7 December 2023 at 21:47<br><b>To: </b>Martijn Katerbarg <martijn.katerbarg@sectigo.com>, CABforum1 <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: Discussion Period begins: Ballot FORUM-020 - Amend Code Signing Certificate Working Group Charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'>On #2, did we decide that it was ok to change scope of the WG w/o approval from the Forum?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Dean Coclin </span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#48565E'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> <span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martijn Katerbarg via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 5, 2023 4:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> CABforum1 <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Discussion Period begins: Ballot FORUM-020 - Amend Code Signing Certificate Working Group Charter<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Ballot FORUM-020 - Amend Code Signing Certificate Working Group Charter</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Purpose of Ballot<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot proposes to amend the Code Signing Certificate Working Group (CSCWG) Charter with the following changes:<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Bump the Charter version.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Add a limited scope for timestamp certificates.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Remove the version reference of the bylaws that we follow.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>During a ballot, count only members that are in a voting class, disregarding associate members and interested parties.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#212121;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Align Quorum definition as half the average, as the Bylaws have it set.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>The following motion has been proposed by Martijn Katerbarg of Sectigo and endorsed by Bruce Morton of Entrust and Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA.<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>----- Motion Begins -----<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>MODIFY the Charter of the Code Signing Certificate Working Group as specified in the following redline:<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'><a href="https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...3d8bc6b6c183392a4893b64632f9fca74deddfd3___.YXAzOmRpZ2ljZXJ0OmE6bzowYWU2ZjE3ODIyZDU3MzhmNGIxMGRlYjIyNDBkZTc5Yzo2Ojg3YzM6NWFkMDcwZjY5MjM3NmNkNTNjODFmMTUwYjY1MWQ0YWU0MTE0ZGNmYzgxYjI2ZjUwYjhlYzUxOGNmMWY1MTU1MDpoOkY" title="Protected by Avanan: https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...3d8bc6b6c183392a4893b64632f9fca74deddfd3">https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...3d8bc6b6c183392a4893b64632f9fca74deddfd3</a><span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>----- Motion Ends -----<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>This ballot does not propose a Final Guideline or Final Maintenance Guideline. <span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Discussion Period (7+ days)<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> Start Time: 2023-12-05 – 10:00 UTC<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> End Time: Not before 2023-12-12 – 10:00 UTC<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vote for approval (7 days)<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> Start Time: TBD<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt'> End Time: TBD<span style='mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>