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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Final
Minutes of CA/B Forum meeting May 11, 2023<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Attendees: Aaron
Gable - (Let's Encrypt), Aaron Poulsen - (Amazon), Adam
Jones - (Microsoft), Ben Wilson - (Mozilla), Brianca Martin
- (Amazon), Bruce Morton - (Entrust), Chris Clements -
(Google), Clint Wilson - (Apple), Corey Bonnell -
(DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen - (OATI), Daryn Wright -
(GoDaddy), David Kluge - (Google), Dean Coclin - (DigiCert),
Dimitris Zacharopoulos - (HARICA), Doug Beattie -
(GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback - (Microsoft), Ellie Lu -
(TrustAsia Technologies, Inc.), Enrico Entschew - (D-TRUST),
Fumi Yoneda - (Japan Registry Services), Inaba Atsushi -
(GlobalSign), Inigo Barreira - (Sectigo), Janet Hines -
(VikingCloud), Joanna Fox - (TrustCor Systems), Jos Purvis -
(Fastly), Karina Sirota - (Microsoft), Kiran Tummala -
(Microsoft), Mads Henriksveen - (Buypass AS), Marcelo Silva
- (Visa), Marco Schambach - (IdenTrust), Martijn Katerbarg -
(Sectigo), Michelle Coon - (OATI), Nargis Mannan -
(VikingCloud), Nate Smith - (GoDaddy), Paul van
Brouwershaven - (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes - (OISTE
Foundation), Peter Miskovic - (Disig), Rebecca Kelley -
(Apple), RIch Smith - (DigiCert), Rollin Yu - (TrustAsia
Technologies, Inc.), Ryan Dickson - (Google), Stephen
Davidson - (DigiCert), Tadahiko Ito - (SECOM Trust Systems),
Thomas Zermeno - (SSL.com), Tim Hollebeek - (DigiCert),
Tobias Josefowitz - (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer -
(Fastly), Wendy Brown - (US Federal PKI Management
Authority), Yoshiro Yoneya - (Japan Registry Services)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The note-well was
read by Paul<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">No changes to the
agenda<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Approval of April
27<sup>th</sup> minutes: Haven’t been received so can’t be
approved. Moved to next call<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Approval of March
30<sup>th</sup> minutes: Approved<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SCWG update: A
discussion was held on improvements to SC-62 but were not
concluded. Also discussed was upcoming ballot SC-63 where
discussions were held on the mailing list. In the validation
subcommittee, there was a discussion of the ACME issuance
workflow which spurned a discussion on whether or not one
can delegate the domain validation to the CA. There was
agreement that this should be allowed since it fosters
automation. Next meeting will discuss how this will be
tackled in the BRs. There was also a discussion on
improvements to EV guidelines around disclosures of QGIS and
sources that CAs have to provide. There will be a follow-up
discussion. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CSCWG update:
Finalized discussion on revocation reasons ballot, which is
now in discussion period. Working on removal of references
to the SSL BRs, which is getting close to ballot. Discussion
on proposed topics for F2F meeting also took place.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SMIME WG update:
Corey Bonnell gave a presentation on PKI lint which DigiCert
has created and released as an open source linter, focused
on ASN.1, which can look at different types of PKI
structures. Approx 150 lints have been implemented so far,
from the SMIME BRs. However, it can be expanded to other
security frameworks. There is an intent to implement the
linter for the SC-62 ballot. It’s available in github. A
discussion around Enterprise RAs also was a topic of the
meeting and will likely come up in the F2F.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Forum
Infrastructure subcommittee: Brief meeting, nothing notable
to report.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Netsec working
group: The proposed ballot for updating section 4 of the
NSRs was discussed in the WG meeting. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Bylaws changes:
The necessary endorsers are in place and a ballot is
expected soon. Tim Hollebeek stated he had submitted some
changes to section 2.5 per the discussion on elections in
Berlin and thought those could be done at the same time. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">SCWG Charter
update: Ben discussed proposed changes around probationary
members or associate members (i.e. non-voting members).
Although this is being discussed in the SCWG, it has to be
voted at the Forum level. There is language around
certificate consumers and participation. One proposal is
that all members participate 30% in a 6 month period (orgs,
not individuals) and attend 1 F2F meeting in the 12 month
period. Another part of the changes is to define the
criteria for certificate consumers. A discussion has
whittled down an initial list of 10 items to 4-5 items.
These are detailed in a separate mailer and will be brought
to the Forum soon. A recommendation to have a moratorium on
new certificate consumer is being proposed (this will be
discussed in the SCWG call).<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">F2F Meeting in
Redmond: 61 people have registered in-person and 19 remote.
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">F2F Agenda: A
draft agenda is on the wiki. Regarding guest speakers,
Karina stated that Aneta is confirming the 2 speakers.
Signups should be closed by May 17<sup>th</sup>. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Any other
business: None<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Next call May 25<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0
level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Meeting adjourned.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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