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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dear Ben,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I would like to comment on the suggested changes concerning the minimal attendance at telcos or F2F to remain a member of the WG. I don’t think such a mandatory
presence is a good idea for the following reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From my experience, I learned that mandatory presence only makes people dial in and not even listen to the
conference, having no positive effect on participation or contribution.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The telcos and most of the F2F are outside of at least Europe’s working hours (9am-5pm<span style="color:#00B050">,</span>
with telcos typically starting at 5pm) which makes attendance difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The chair of the WG would have extra effort to calculate if a member meets the minimal attendance requirement
and if not, start the process of warning/suspending the member.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">This leads me to ask to remove this requirement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Kind regards<br>
Roman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Montag, 15. Mai 2023 17:03<br>
<b>To:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-0XX: Modify Charter of Server Certificate Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is a draft ballot to modify the Charter of the Server Certificate Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><b>Ballot FORUM-0XX: Modify Charter of Server Certificate Working Group</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><b>Purpose of the Ballot</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">During discussions at Face-to-Face Meeting 58, it was noted that the membership criteria for Certificate Consumers in the Charter for the Server Certificate Working Group (SCWG) lacked sufficient
detail. Since then, several members of the CA/Browser Forum have worked to develop better criteria for membership of Certificate Consumers in the SCWG.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">This ballot modifies the Charter of the SCWG based on version 1.2 and changes the criteria for voting membership of both Certificate Issuers and Certificate Consumers in the SCWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">The following motion has been proposed by Ben Wilson of Mozilla and endorsed by ______ of ______ and _____ of _____.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><b>Motion Begins</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">MODIFY the Charter of the Server Certificate Working Group as specified in the following redline:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><a href="https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/d908a475e59e64fd9224e878864386ebc0b68808..9bef376326869b1bc83fcdcb04ed66343393104a">https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/d908a475e59e64fd9224e878864386ebc0b68808..9bef376326869b1bc83fcdcb04ed66343393104a</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><b>Motion Ends</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">This ballot does not propose a Final Guideline or Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Discussion (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> Start Time: 2023-05-XX xx:xx UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> End Time: Not before 2023-05-xx xx:xx UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> Start Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> End Time: TBD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">I am looking for two endorsers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%">Ben<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:106%"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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