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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#333333" vlink="#333333" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Here are the final minutes for the subject call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Attendance: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Adam Jones (Microsoft)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Adrian Mueller (SwissSign)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Andrea Holland (SecureTrust)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ben Wilson (Mozilla)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bruce Morton (Entrust)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Clint Wilson (Apple)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Corey Bonnell (Digicert)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dean Coclin (Digicert)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Doug Beattie (GlobalSign)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Fumihiko Yoneda (Japan Registry Services)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate Sdn Bhd)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Israr Ahmed (E-tugra)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Joanna Fox (TrustCor Systems)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Johnny Reading (GoDaddy)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Karina Sirota (Microsoft)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Kati Davids (GoDaddy)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Marcelo Silva (Visa)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Martijn Katerbarg (Sectigo)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Peter Miskovic (Disig)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Rae Ann Gonzales (GoDaddy)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Rebecca Kelley (Apple)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Ryan Dickson (Google)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Stephen Davidson (Digicert)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tim Hollebeek (Digicert)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Tyler Myers (GoDaddy)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Vijayakumar (Vijay) Manjunatha (eMudhra)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Wayne Thayer (Fastly)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:middle'><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Opening Procedures- Dean <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Roll Call <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Read Antitrust Statement<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Approval of minutes of last call<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Face to Face minutes approved<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update given by Jos Purvis<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>No update due to no meetings since last meeting<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Code Signing Certificate Working Group update given by Bruce Morton<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Working on ballot for subscriber key protection<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Making progress on changing format for CSBRs<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Taking about verification for open source projects- how to issue CS certificates to open source projects or members of OS projects<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Changing the validity period for timestamp authorities certificates and rekey requirements<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>SMIME working group update given by Stephen Davidson<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Talking about actual verification regimes covering 3 areas:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The organization <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Control over the domain or mailbox <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The individual identity<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Discussion about OV and EV for S/MIME certificates and how to verify the legal existence of entities in both cases, but especially EV<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tried to adopt standards that have come out of the baseline requirements<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Discussions of where there are deviations from the baseline requirements<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Example, there are some stipulations of subscriber keys that are specific to TLS but don't really apply to S/MIME<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Question: When will you have draft BRs out? <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo13;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> 2022 is the intent<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo14;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>F2F dates<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>June meeting- RSA conference was postponed until June meeting with Certum. Polled of 39 participants on call, 1 has said they may be attending. No additional comments. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Unclear what the status of this meeting is at this time. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The reason for doing it is due to a forum that will be held at the same time at that location and thought that Forum participants will want to stay and listen for it. <o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Similar case for Berlin, where Face to Face is scheduled at the same time as CA Day<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>People who are going to Salt Lake City should review the registration page modify the additional columns that were added. <o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo17;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Any Other Business:<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=6 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo18;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>None<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=7 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level2 lfo19;vertical-align:middle'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Next call: January 20th, 2022</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></li></ol></ul></div></body></html>