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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/11/2021 5:56 μ.μ., Tim Hollebeek
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">I don’t think it can be done.  Remember,
          the entire point of various people not being in various
          working groups is because they don’t want to review, disclose,
          or grant licenses based on updates to the documents in that
          working group.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">While it would be nice if everyone joined
          the NetSec working group, so that we’re sure that the NCSSRs
          are free from IPR encumbrances, I don’t think we can force
          everyone to do so.  Which is essentially what you’d be doing
          by expanding IPR review to all the CWGs.</p>
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    If the IP review notice was sent out to all working groups, Members
    of all WGs would need to review and send any notices to the Chair
    that started the Review period, according to the Bylaws in section
    2.4-6.<br>
    <br>
    Wouldn't this process work? This process is still not enforcing all
    Working Groups to adopt the updated Guideline, it just completes the
    IP Review phase in the NetSec WG in a more effective/efficient way.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">-Tim<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Ben Wilson
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bwilson@mozilla.com"><bwilson@mozilla.com></a> <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 10, 2021 10:31 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"><dzacharo@harica.gr></a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> CABforum1 <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><public@cabforum.org></a>; Tim
                Hollebeek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com"><tim.hollebeek@digicert.com></a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Draft Working Group
                Charter for Network Security WG<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I can add your first point into the
              ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have any language that
                would address Dimitris' second point, about enforcement
                across the board for the entire CAB Forum? We don't want
                to have to track different versions among Working
                Groups.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Ben<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 11:36 PM
                Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
                  href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr"
                  moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Ben,</span>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To
                    minimize the risk of including IP protected material
                    in the NetSec Guidelines, I propose that the IPR
                    review process includes all Chartered Working
                    Groups. Exclusion notices might arrive by any Member
                    of any CWG.</span> <br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">At
                    the same time, all CWG members will be aware of
                    changes in the NetSec WG Guidelines because they
                    would need to check for IPR issues.</span> <br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thoughts
                    about that?</span> <br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">On
                    the updated language and "enforcement" of updated
                    NetSec Guidelines to other Working Groups, I'm
                    afraid it is not allowed. Chartered Working Groups
                    have the necessary isolation from the Bylaws so that
                    one CWG doesn't affect the work of another CWG, so
                    I'm afraid this language is inconsistent with the
                    current Bylaws.</span> <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dimitris.</span>
                  <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p>Nov 10, 2021 05:20:40 Ben Wilson via Public <<a
                        href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">public@cabforum.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Here is another iteration
                          of the charter proposal, based on today's
                          teleconference of the NetSec subcommittee: <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nrUFymusJV7YrvQBQ-2v6XbJgLGXOIieQMHu6AlaEPc"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nrUFymusJV7YrvQBQ-2v6XbJgLGXOIieQMHu6AlaEPc</a>
                          <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Of note, I replaced the
                          previously proposed section 5 with: <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">" <b><span
                              style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                              New Roman",serif;color:black">5.
                              Applicability of new NCSSR versions </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                            Roman",serif;color:black">– Discussion
                            and voting on any ballot to change the
                            NCSSRs shall proceed within the NetSec WG in
                            accordance with sections 2.3 and 2.4 of the
                            Bylaws. Additionally, notice of the proposed
                            ballot and discussion period shall be given
                            to the SCWG, the CSCWG, and the SMCWG via
                            their Public Mail Lists. If the ballot to
                            change the NCSSRs passes the Initial Vote,
                            then the new version of the NCSSRs shall be
                            considered binding and effective on any
                            working group that does not pass a ballot
                            rejecting the new version before the close
                            of the IPR Review Period." </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at
                          10:09 AM Tim Hollebeek <<a
                            href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>
                          wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">So,
                              the approach I’ve been advocating so far
                              in various WGs is the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <ol type="1" start="1">
                              <li class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                                level1 lfo1">NetSec WG produces and
                                maintains versions of the NCSSRs<o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                                level1 lfo1">Individual WGs point to a
                                specific version of the NCSSRs<o:p></o:p></li>
                              <li class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                                level1 lfo1">Individual WGs from time to
                                time, evaluate and consume new versions,
                                and update the version of the NCSSRs
                                they reference<o:p></o:p></li>
                            </ol>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">With
                              some iterative feedback and
                              collaboration.  This is the standard way
                              of handling standards dependencies, and is
                              very much in line with how software
                              dependencies are handled.  It’s also how,
                              for example, the Code Signing WG manages
                              it’s dependency on the TLS BRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">However,
                              that model might not be desirable in this
                              case, as issuing systems for CAs are
                              almost certainly shared across the use
                              cases, and divergences among the WGs as to
                              which version of the NCSSRs they reference
                              would put certificate issuers in a bit of
                              a pickle.  The WebTrust audit framework
                              also might need to change, as it typically
                              bundles the NCSSRs into other audits and
                              can’t easily deal with multiple relevant
                              versions of the NCSSRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                              wanted to bring this issue up so we can
                              discuss potential solutions, which might
                              include potential modifications to this
                              charter.  For example, we may want to
                              modify the voting structure and/or
                              procedures to make sure modifications to
                              the NCSSRs have the support of all the
                              downstream consumers before the changes
                              are approved, instead of having to deal
                              with that as a second step.  This would
                              also avoid the other problem that the
                              NetSec working group has had, which is
                              where changes are debated and approved by
                              NetSec, but then have to be relitigated at
                              the Server Cert level, often with a lot of
                              wasted effort.  I hope that certain recent
                              changes mean that that problem has now
                              been overtaken by events, but it does seem
                              like it would be more productive if
                              everyone agreed across all working groups
                              on NCCSR updates before they’re approved,
                              so that they can be adopted in a uniform
                              way.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Any
                              other thoughts or feedback?  I would love
                              to hear other approaches that might work,
                              I just want to avoid having to deal with
                              version skew problems with the NCSSRs.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">It’s
                              possible that longer term, the NetSec
                              working group should grow up to be the
                              “Baseline Baseline” working group that was
                              discussed during governance reform, that
                              is tasked with handling all of the
                              cross-cutting concerns that are best
                              handled in a coordinated manner across all
                              of the working groups.  While each working
                              group does have its own unique needs and
                              needs to have the ability to maintain
                              their own requirements, there are lots of
                              other cases beyond the NCSSRs where
                              uniformity is more important, and now that
                              we’re close to having all the policies in
                              3647 format, it’s relatively
                              straightforward to maintain them in this
                              way.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-Tim<o:p></o:p></p>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                                    Public <<a
                                      href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Wilson via
                                    Public<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 28,
                                    2021 12:35 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> CABforum1 <<a
                                      href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Draft
                                    Working Group Charter for Network
                                    Security WG<o:p></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Here
                                    is a draft charter for a Network
                                    Security Working Group.  Please
                                    provide your comments, and then we
                                    will finalize this work in the form
                                    of a Forum Ballot and Server
                                    Certificate WG Ballot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ben<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"
id="m_423170240647867173gmail-m_-9042216088485262229gmail-docs-internal-guid-8dd19628-7fff-46c9-4209-a1a5e4e3a650"><b><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">Overview</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">In
                                      January 2013 the CA/Browser
                                      Forum’s “Network and Certificate
                                      System Security Requirements”
                                      (NCSSRs) became effective. In June
                                      2017, the Forum chartered a
                                      Network Security Working Group to
                                      re-visit the NCSSRs. That charter
                                      expired on June 19, 2018, and in
                                      October 2018, the Server
                                      Certificate Working Group (SCWG)
                                      established a Network Security
                                      Subcommittee (NetSec Subcommittee)
                                      to continue work on the NCSSRs.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">This
                                      ballot proposes to charter a new
                                      Network Security Working Group
                                      (NetSec WG) to replace the NetSec
                                      Subcommittee, to continue work on
                                      the NCSSRs, and to conduct any and
                                      all business related to improving
                                      the security of Certification
                                      Authorities. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">Following
                                      the passage of this/these
                                      ballot(s):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1"
                                    start="1">
                                    <li class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="color:black;margin-top:12.0pt;mso-list:l0
                                      level1
                                      lfo2;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">A
                                        new NetSec WG will be chartered
                                        under the CA/B Forum, pursuant
                                        to section 5.3.1 of the Bylaws;</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                                    <li class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="color:black;mso-list:l0
                                      level1
                                      lfo2;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
                                        SCWG’s existing NetSec
                                        Subcommittee will be dissolved
                                        by the SCWG and the Charter of
                                        the SCWG will be amended to note
                                        that work on the NCSSRs are
                                        within the authorized scope of
                                        the NetSec WG; </span><o:p></o:p></li>
                                    <li class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="color:black;mso-list:l0
                                      level1
                                      lfo2;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
                                        existing mailing list and other
                                        materials developed for the
                                        NetSec Subcommittee will be
                                        repurposed for use by the NetSec
                                        WG; and</span><o:p></o:p></li>
                                    <li class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="color:black;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-list:l0
                                      level1
                                      lfo2;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">The
                                        Forum will develop a procedure
                                        to coordinate the NetSec WG’s
                                        adoption of security-related
                                        recommendations for requirements
                                        or guidelines that are within
                                        the purview of the other Forum
                                        WGs (the BRs/EVGs by the SCWG,
                                        Baseline Requirements for Code
                                        Signing Certificates of the
                                        CSCWG, etc.). </span><o:p></o:p></li>
                                  </ol>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">NetSec
                                        WG Charter</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">A
                                      chartered Working Group (“NetSec
                                      WG”) is created to perform the
                                      activities as specified in this
                                      Charter, subject to the terms and
                                      conditions of the CA/Browser Forum
                                      Bylaws (<a
                                        href="https://cabforum.org/bylaws/"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cabforum.org/bylaws/</a>)
                                      and Intellectual Property Rights
                                      (IPR) Policy (<a
                                        href="https://cabforum.org/ipr-policy/"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cabforum.org/ipr-policy/</a>),
                                      as such documents may change from
                                      time to time. This charter for the
                                      NetSec WG has been created
                                      according to CAB Forum Bylaw
                                      5.3.1. In the event of a conflict
                                      between this Charter and any
                                      provision in either the Bylaws or
                                      the IPR Policy, the provision in
                                      the Bylaws or IPR Policy shall
                                      take precedence. The definitions
                                      found in the Forum’s Bylaws shall
                                      apply to capitalized terms in this
                                      Charter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">1.
                                        Scope</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      - The scope of work performed by
                                      the NetSec WG includes:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">1.
                                        To modify and maintain the
                                      existing Network and Certificate
                                      System Security Requirements
                                      (NCSSRs), or a successor
                                      requirements document;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">2.
                                        To make recommendations for
                                      improvements to security controls
                                      in the requirements or guidelines
                                      adopted by other Forum WGs (e.g.
                                      see sections 5 and 6 of the
                                      Baseline Requirements);</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">3.
                                        To create new requirements,
                                      guidelines, and best practices
                                      related to the security of CA
                                      operations;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">4.
                                        To perform risk analyses,
                                      security analyses, and other types
                                      of reviews of threats and
                                      vulnerabilities applicable to CA
                                      operations involved in the
                                      issuance and maintenance of
                                      publicly trusted certificates
                                      (e.g. server certificates, code
                                      signing certificates, SMIME
                                      certificates, etc.); and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">5.
                                        To perform other activities
                                      ancillary to the primary
                                      activities listed above.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">2.
                                        Out of Scope</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      – The NetSec WG shall not adopt
                                      requirements, Guidelines, or
                                      Maintenance Guidelines concerning
                                      certificate profiles, validation
                                      processes, certificate issuance,
                                      certificate revocation, or
                                      subscriber obligations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">3.
                                        End Date</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      – The NetSec WG shall continue
                                      until it is dissolved by a vote of
                                      the CA/B Forum.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">4.
                                        Deliverables</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      - The NetSec WG shall be
                                      responsible for delivering and
                                      maintaining the NCSSRs and any
                                      other documents the group may
                                      choose to develop and maintain.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">5.
                                        Participation and Membership</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black"> –
                                      Membership in the NetSec WG shall
                                      be limited to Certificate Issuer
                                      Members and Certificate Consumer
                                      Members of the Server Certificate
                                      Working Group, the Code Signing
                                      Certificate Working Group, or the
                                      SMIME Certificate Working Group.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">In
                                      accordance with the IPR Policy,
                                      Members that choose to participate
                                      in the NetSec WG MUST declare
                                      their participation and shall do
                                      so prior to participating. A
                                      Member must declare its
                                      participation in the NetSec WG by
                                      requesting to be added to the
                                      mailing list. The Chair of the
                                      NetSec WG shall establish a list
                                      for declarations of participation
                                      and manage it in accordance with
                                      the Bylaws, the IPR Policy, and
                                      the IPR Agreement.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">The
                                      NetSec WG shall  include
                                      Interested Parties and Associate
                                      Members as defined in the Bylaws.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">Resignation
                                      from the NetSec WG does not
                                      prevent a participant from
                                      potentially having continuing
                                      obligations under the Forum’s IPR
                                      Policy or any other document.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">6.
                                        Voting Structure</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">The
                                      NetSec WG shall consist of two
                                      classes of voting members,
                                      Certificate Issuers and
                                      Certificate Consumers. In order
                                      for a ballot to be adopted by the
                                      NetSec WG, two-thirds or more of
                                      the votes cast by the Certificate
                                      Issuers must be in favor of the
                                      ballot and more than 50% of the
                                      votes cast by the Certificate
                                      Consumers must be in favor of the
                                      ballot. At least one member of
                                      each class must vote in favor of a
                                      ballot for it to be adopted.
                                      Quorum is the average number of
                                      Member organizations (cumulative,
                                      regardless of Class) that have
                                      participated in the previous three
                                      NetSec WG Meetings or
                                      Teleconferences (not counting
                                      subcommittee meetings thereof).
                                      For transition purposes, if three
                                      meetings have not yet occurred,
                                      then quorum is ten (10).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">7.
                                        Leadership</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">Chair</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black"> –
                                      Clint Wilson shall be the initial
                                      Chair of the NetSec WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">Vice-Chair</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black"> - 
                                      David Kluge shall be the initial
                                      Vice-Chair of the NetSec WG.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">Term.</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black"> 
                                      The Chair and Vice-Chair will
                                      serve until October 31, 2022, or
                                      until they are replaced, resign,
                                      or are otherwise disqualified.
                                      Thereafter, elections shall be
                                      held for chair and vice chair
                                      every two years in coordination
                                      with the Forum’s election process
                                      and in conjunction with its
                                      election cycle. Voting shall occur
                                      in accordance with Bylaw 4.1(c).
                                      In the event of a midterm vacancy,
                                      the NetSec WG will hold a special
                                      election and the selected
                                      candidate will serve the remainder
                                      of the existing term.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">8.
                                        Communication</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      - NetSec WG communications and
                                      documents shall be posted on
                                      mailing-lists where the
                                      mail-archives are publicly
                                      accessible, and the NetSec WG
                                      shall publish minutes of its
                                      meetings to the Forum’s website.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">9. 
                                        IPR Policy</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      - The CA/Browser Forum
                                      Intellectual Rights Policy, v. 1.3
                                      or later, shall apply to all
                                      Working Group activity.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">10.</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black"> <b>Other
                                        Organizational Matters</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                      Roman",serif;color:black">Reserved.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
                                        Roman",serif;color:black">Effect
                                        of Forum Bylaws Amendment on
                                        Working Group</span></b><span
                                      style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times
                                      New Roman",serif;color:black">
                                      - In the event that Forum Bylaws
                                      are amended to add or modify
                                      general rules governing Forum
                                      Working Groups and how they
                                      operate, such provisions of the
                                      Bylaws take precedence over this
                                      charter.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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