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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#333333" vlink="#333333" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>These were published to the <a href="https://cabforum.org/2021/10/01/2021-09-09-minutes-of-the-ca-browser-forum-teleconference/">CABF public website (cabforum.org)</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (</span><a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | Controls and Trust Verification</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of Dean Coclin via Public <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, 30 September, 2021 at 13:16<br><b>To: </b>CABforum1 <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[cabfpub] Final minutes of CA/B Forum call September 2, 2021<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Here are the final minutes for the subject call. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1;vertical-align:middle'>Opening Procedures- Dean <o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'>Roll Call <o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='color:black'>Adrian Mueller (SwissSign), Ali Gholami (Telia), Amanda Mendieta (Apple), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Brittany Randall (GoDaddy), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Chris McMillan (Visa), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (Digicert), David Kluge (Google), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Fumihiko Yoneda (Japan Registry Services), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna Fox (TrustCor Systems), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Kati Davids (GoDaddy), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mike Min (GoDaddy), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Vijayakumar (Vijay) Manjunatha (eMudhra), Yoshiro Yoneya (Japan Registry Services), Steven Deitte (GoDaddy)<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'>Read Antitrust Statement<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'>Review Agenda<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'>Approval of minutes of last call<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='color:black'>-Ask to look through previous minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'>Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update given by Jos <o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>Github tagging is enabled and the last couple of ballots up to the current release and 48 were tagged <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>Discussion of issues and issue tracking and whether to come out with labeling or guides for labeling issues<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>Brief issue with publication of smart ligatures in the SC48 update. Style guide was updated with dash types<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>For SC47, there was a last minute date fix that opened discussion about how to reopen a branch. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>There were several suggestions on how to update the ballot table on the website. The working group is trying out options. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>Adding DMARC into reporting status and then will move it into a quarantine status. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>GoDaddy is looking at doing is moving the primary DNS records for CABforum.org to Amazon's route 53 and then keeping GoDaddy as the secondary. That means, we'll be able to control our own DNS but will still have GoDaddy as a backup<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'>Will be starting from scratch on a new membership spreadsheet<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=8 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'>We will asking each member organization to supply a fresh set of the canonical member list for your organization<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.25in'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'>Code Signing Certificate Working Group update given by Andrea<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'>Had 2 ballots (SC 9 and 10) that had been approved that are in the IPR period now<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'>Discussed Ian's ballot for logging and audit retention<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'>Discussed Ian's ballot for subscriber keys. Will be waiting for a clean-up ballot for that to go through<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'>Will be reviewing some of the past SC ballots for any impact to the code signing BRs<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'>Cory is working on the new formatting to move the code signing BRs to Pandoc<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level4 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'>Will be comparing version 2.5 of the CSBRs and where it now is in the new doc compared to the 3647 structure and also how it was modified.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'>Discussed blank sections in the code signing documents to decide how the working group wants to handle that. <o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level2 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'>SMIME working group update given by Stephen <o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'>Certificate profiles for mailbox validation are basically agreed on for individuals representing an organization<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'>Next step is to look at certificate profile for personal certificates<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'>These profiles will lead into the creation of the SMIME BRs<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'>Fall F2F dates<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:middle'>October 12-14, 2021<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:middle'>Guest speaker will be Professor Zane Ma from Georgia Tech<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo13;vertical-align:middle'>Please let us know comments about the agenda<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo14;vertical-align:middle'>Any Other Business:<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=6 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'>None<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=7 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'>Next call: September 16<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>