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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;vertical-align:middle'>Here are the final minutes of the subject meeting:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;vertical-align:middle'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Attendance: Aaron Gable (Let's Encrypt), Adrian Mueller (SwissSign), Ali Gholami (Telia), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Chris McMillan (Visa), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (DigiCert), Corey Rasmussen (OATI), Curt Spann (Apple), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Jeff Ward (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick Nohe (GlobalSign), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Sebastian Schulz (GlobalSign), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Anti-Trust statement read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Forum Infrastructure - Ben Wilson gave the update<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Looking at how do a redesign of the website<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:246.9pt;text-indent:-246.9pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Make things easier for people to find<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:246.9pt;text-indent:-246.9pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Make things categorized by working groups and have the documents page be the key landing page. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Code Signing Working group update -Bruce Morton gave the update<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Designated people to take minutes for 3 months ahead<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Finished approving ballot CSWG-07 and now on IPR agreement review through March 5th.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Considering using the Pandoc versions of the document for the new version of the document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:246.9pt;text-indent:-246.9pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Change format to RFC 3637 format before doing Pandoc version<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Discussed OCSP time-signing certificates <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:246.9pt;text-indent:-246.9pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Are these CA or subscriber certs?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:246.9pt;text-indent:-246.9pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Is OCSP required for time stamping certificates? and other discussions on validity period and key protection.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Still working on ballot for subscriber key protection to make sure that all subscribers keys are protected in an HSM. The base is FIPS-140 level 2 and what other equivalents there are. Protection level would ideally be the same on-prem or in the cloud. How do we audit that it has the same protection level? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>f.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Working on ballot for high risk CS requests and how we should be weeding out bad actors and etc. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>g.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Moving to minimum 3072-bit RSA key in June 1 but don't have a list of subscriber tokens that would meet our requirements. Need to get this list to move forward. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>h.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Next meeting will be on Feb 25. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>SMIME Working Group- Stephen Davidson<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>New members: Apple as a certificate consumer and Camerfirma as a certificate issuer. Total count of membership is 42. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Engaged in discussion for leaf certificate profile and fulfilling the basic confirmations for certificates and advancing drafting relevant BR sections<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Group will have a greater discussion on frameworks in the f2f meeting, primarily on fields that are discouraged but permitted for S/MIME. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Group will be reaching to infrastructure group to move to GitHub. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>F2F 52<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Only ~50 sign-ups, less than before<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>James Burton, who is not a member of the CA/B Forum but was previously an interested party, wants to attend the guest speaker portions. No general objections.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Mr. Dustin Moody from NIST speaking about Crypto in a post-quantum world. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Dr. Natalia Stakhanova is a professor at a university in Canada, speaking the story of your cryptographic keys, the source attribution of your keys. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Agenda is online with open slots available with flexible times if needed. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Pending Application update<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:183.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>AT&T membership- they are reviewing and will get back to Dean<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>8.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Any other business- none. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:120.9pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>9.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Meeting Adjourned<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:middle'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='vertical-align:middle'>Minutes taken by Karina Sirota<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p></div></body></html>