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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p style='margin:0in'><span style='font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif'>Here are the approved minutes of the subject call:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in'><span style='font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>RollCall<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Anti-Trust Statement read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Approval of Prior Minutes-- Approved<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Forum Infrastructure Working group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Considerable discussion on Github updates and reformatting documents<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo4;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Separate repo for tooling that is producing these documents<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Introducing ballots to clean out the old tooling and consolidate that into a single repo<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Introduction of depend-o-bot which will keep track of security issues with tooling<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo5;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Membership management <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Please use a Google Form for any change requests<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Link here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSedEJpyWC7tCn-yiJL5SnLiC-WARsWyY2Hb0NNakl4_jCIY3w/viewform">Membership Change Request (google.com)</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Moving from Turbobridge to Webex for future bi-weekly meetings <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Questions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Dean: Who get alerted when changes are made to the list? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Wayne: You can subscribe to the worksheet and get notifications that way<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>FYI: Everyone in the management list got the invite for Forum Infrastructure group, no obligation for anyone to attend.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo7;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Code Signing Working Group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Latest Ballot CSWG7 has new version of ballot (merging EV and non-EV together). Currently in Discussion period, entering voting period soon. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Requiring FIPS level 2-vs level 3. Level 2 is the minimum, but Level 3 will be looked at for Cloud based environment<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Looked at Comments from Cory re: supporting SHA-1--Can support SHA-1 to respond to revocation requests after the sunset date. It's acceptable to issue SHA-1 timestamping certs until April 30, 2022<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Confusion around 3k keys- Requirements say 3k but Microsoft requirements say 4k- only new roots must be 4k. Any existing roots can issue 3k. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>3072 tokens that meet FIPS. Devices should be coming to market in the Spring and group will monitor. No devices currently on market. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo8;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>f.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Questions: <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo9;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Tim Crawford: audit update key requirements<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Ian: Subscriber can provide key generation and vault logs<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo10;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Tim: How can this be standardized? SOC-2? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Ian: will look into it<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo11;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Sebastian: What if a cert is cross-signed with an older root? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:3.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]> Ian: As long as the existing root meets the expiration requirements of 2030, it should be okay. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>g.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Next meeting is next week <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo12;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>S/MIME Working Group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo13;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Discussions on different types of S/MIME Certificates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo14;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Legacy, Multi-purpose certificates vs strict certificates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:189.0pt;text-indent:-189.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo14;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>8 Different types of certificates. Group will send out mail for group approval of these certificates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo14;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>7.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>F2F<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>March 2-3 Spring Virtual Meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Similar to last meeting with similar time. Draft schedule will be out shortly as well. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>c.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>We will resume weekly meetings using WebEx. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>d.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Future meeting in June will be likely be virtual<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>e.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Fall meeting is still too early to tell<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo15;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>8.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Any other business? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>None<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo16;vertical-align:middle'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>9.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Next call in 2 weeks. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:63.0pt;vertical-align:middle'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks to Karina for taking the minutes!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>Dean Coclin<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0174C3'>CA/B Forum Chair<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>