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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:windowtext'>These are the approved minutes of the subject meeting:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><h2>Attendees (in alphabetical order)<o:p></o:p></h2><h2><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext;font-weight:normal'>Adrian Mueller (SwissSign), Amanda Mendieta (Apple), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (SecureTrust), Christy Berghoff (Federal PKI), Curt Spann (Apple), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), David Kluge (Google), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Hazhar Ismail (MSC Trustgate), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy), Johnny Reading (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick Nohe (GlobalSign), Paul van Brouwershaven (Entrust), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rae Ann Gonzales (GoDaddy), Rebecca Kelley (Apple), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Shelley Brewer (Digicert), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tadahiko Ito (SECOM Trust Systems), Thomas Zermeno (SSL.com), Tim Callan (Sectigo), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority)<o:p></o:p></span></h2><h2>Minutes <o:p></o:p></h2><p class=MsoNormal><b>CA/B Forum Meeting Minutes (2020-11-12)</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dean Coclin (DigiCert) CA/B Forum Chair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><b>Administrative Updates<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Anti-trust statement was read<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Agenda was published. No comments.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Approval of Face-to-Face 51 minutes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>No comments. Minutes approved.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><b>Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'>Jos Purvis (Cisco) CA/B Forum Vice Chair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Conversion of CA/B Forum GIT Repository into separate sub-repositories<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>All repositories created and working out final details<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Ryan Sleevi (Google) asked for owners in email to add 2FA or ask to be removed as an owner<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>At this point, only 2 members remaining without 2FA. Ryan will send them a direct email.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>At this point, 2FA will be enabled.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Jim Gorz (GoDaddy) has been preparing to move the mailer host<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>He’ll post a change date once it is available to ensure we do not have discussions or voting periods during the migration to the new host<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><b>Code Signing Certificate Working Group<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'>Dean Coclin (DigiCert) CA/B Forum Chair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>CSCWG-4: Review period ended. Bruce published final version and it is up and running<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Ian McMillan (Microsoft)<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>proposed Key Protection ballot. This is about cloud based key protection requirements. Clarification needed on log retention. USB tokens needed for that. Auditing discussed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Question about clarifying timeline for 3072 bit keys. Now June 2021.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>If root issued before 2021 and is 2048 key size, can it still be used. Ian McMillan is going to get clarity.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Bruce Morton (Entrust) is investigating EV vs. Non-EV requirements in BRs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><b>S/MIME Working Group<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'>Stephen Davidson (DigiCert)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Telia interested in participating in working group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Working group is currently at 38 members<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Fast approaching stage of using GitHub<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Steven will work with Infrastructure Subcommittee to use GitHub for S/MIME<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Leaf certificate profile<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Reviewed data within fields<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Working on aligning format (table type) with what other working groups are using<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><b>Additional Administrative Updates<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Member applications<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Jos Purvis (Cisco) will follow-up with members requesting to join the CA/B Forum<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Stephen Davidson (DigiCert) will follow up with Telia regarding the S/MIME Working Group membership request<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Responding to Mailing List Questions<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Dean Coclin (DigiCert) discussed the process for how to respond to the questions list. If Dean can answer administrative questions, he’ll respond immediately. If the questions are more unique or not “administrative”, he’ll ask for input from the group before sending a response.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Dean asked if anyone has any issues with how he’s been responding so far. No concerns were raised.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Next Meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The next scheduled meeting is canceled because it lands on the U.S. holiday of Thanksgiving.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:1.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>December 10<sup>th</sup> is the now the next meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><h3><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Adjourned<o:p></o:p></span></h3><h3><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>F2F Meeting Schedule: <o:p></o:p></span></h3><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'>2021: Feb-March<span style='color:windowtext'> -- Virtual,</span> June – Poland (Asseco-Certum), October - Minneapolis (OATI) <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'>2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - <span style='color:red'>[Open]</span>, October - <span style='color:red'>[Open]</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div></div></div></body></html>