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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Published!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (</span><a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | Controls and Trust Verification</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA)" <dzacharo@harica.gr>, CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at 12:05 PM<br><b>To: </b>CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[cabfpub] Final Minutes for CA/Browser Forum Teleconference - July 9, 2020<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>These are the Final Minutes of the Teleconference described in the subject of this message.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><h2>Attendees (in alphabetical order)<o:p></o:p></h2><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Adam Clark (Visa), Andrea Holland (SecureTrust), Arno Fiedler (D-TRUST), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris McMillan (Visa), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell (SecureTrust), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Curt Spann (Apple), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dre Aremeda (GoDaddy), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Jeff Ward (CPA Canada/WebTrust), Jos Purvis (Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Mayur Manchanda (Visa), Michelle Coon (OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick Nohe (GlobalSign), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rachel McPherson (TrustCor Systems), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Stephen Davidson (Digicert), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz (Opera Software AS), Wayne Thayer (Mozilla).<o:p></o:p></p><h2>Minutes <o:p></o:p></h2><h3>1. Roll Call<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Chair took attendance. <o:p></o:p></p><h3>2. Read Antitrust Statement<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The Antitrust Statement was read. <o:p></o:p></p><h3>3. Review Agenda, Assign Minute Taker<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Tobi volunteered to take the minutes for July 23rd. No changes to the agenda were noted.<o:p></o:p></p><h3>4. Approval of minutes from previous teleconference<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The minutes were already approved.<o:p></o:p></p><h3>5. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update<o:p></o:p></h3><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Excellent meeting on 1 July. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Starting to look at the migration of the mailers. Making sure timing will not impact ballot voting<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Had discussions about email reminders. Looking at IETF model for how to think about improvements<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Take a look at GitHub projects vs. Cello capabilities for feedback. Ideally we have all the work being done in one place for 1) familiarity of tools and 2) ease of sharing between committees and subgroups<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Looking at tools for auto publishing<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Call out for any other documents we need to produce the same way with the same tool sets etc.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Next steps will be draft ballots as a result of any of these plans<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>There is a spirited discussion on the public list on listserv password reminder mails. We decided to post info on the Wiki that will tell folks how to reset passwords. We will also turn off the reminders and see if there is any problem form users with not receiving these reminders<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Looking to how to solve the redline problem. Looking at solutions to support pull requests<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Ryan 3647 template is out there in GitHub. Tim: thanks for everyone for getting this template out there. Should we have separate sections to make it clear as to which docs have been adopted by ballots and which have not. E.g. a section with official docs and another with “helpful” docs. Dimitris also thanked everyone involved in this work and all the time it will save folks<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Dean: Josh, are you able to put changed names on the mailing list? Josh: He believe he did. He will go back through his emails to double check for GoDaddy, SecureTrust and other changes that came int<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo1'>Dimitris: I believe all archives are public/open except for the management list. FYI anyone can use “forgot password” and get their password back<o:p></o:p></li></ul><h3>6. Code Signing Working Group update<o:p></o:p></h3><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>Had a meeting out of cycle on 7 July. Most of the meeting was going through the combined document and cleaning up a few minor issues that were still a bit confusing. These will move to the parking lot list for future ballots<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>Discussion period for the ballot started this morning (9 July)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>Another version of the document will be updating the format<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'>Ultimately, we’ll have a single document that combines CS and EV CS requirements<o:p></o:p></li></ul><h3>7. S/MIME Working Group update<o:p></o:p></h3><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>Stephen: public list post announced passing of the charter and call for membership. Any questions can be sent in reply or to Steven directly<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>In order to bootstrap we’ll have a period of soliciting interest. 22 July at 11am EDT will be the first meeting. On agenda will be to review the list of startup members and to vote on it. We’ll need 2/3rds of members to vote for it to pass. The email sent out on the list has details on how to declare interest. Certificate Consumer member definitions are included in these communications as is the definition of a Certificate issuer member and interested party member.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>Some have sent in declaration of interest. However, we have some companies that may be interested but are not aware. Ask of CAs and Certificate Consumers to spread the word on the WG and to encourage membership<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>First meeting will discuss goals of the group and next steps. Many elements of this WG will need to coordinate and leverage work form other WGs e.g. validation and the like<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>Dimitris pointed out that with the recent bylaw changes that new members must declare their official voting representatives. Steven will make sure to clarify this requirement. <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>Double check that there is a way to bootstrap the WG email list and potential members are not going to the wrong lists for information or responses<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'>Thanks to the infrastructure group for all the help in getting this WG set up for a success start!<o:p></o:p></li></ul><h3>8. Approval of minutes from F2F 50 <o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Minutes were approved.<o:p></o:p></p><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in'>9. Decide about having F2F 51 virtual or not<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Doug: Given the COVID-19 situation we recommend that we cancel the f2f portion and go to full virtual meeting. Decision was made to make this a virtual meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in'>10. Any Other Business<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>None<o:p></o:p></p><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in'>11. Next call<o:p></o:p></h3><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The next call will take place on July 23, 2020 at 11:30am Eastern Time.<o:p></o:p></p><h3>Adjourned<o:p></o:p></h3><h3>F2F Meeting Schedule: <o:p></o:p></h3><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5'>2020: October 20-22 (Virtual)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5'>2021: Feb-March San Jose, CA (Cisco), June – Poland (Asseco-Certum), October - Minneapolis (OATI) <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo5'>2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - <span style='color:red'>[Open]</span>, October - <span style='color:red'>[Open]</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul></div></div></div></body></html>