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<div class="WordSection1"> These are the Final Minutes of the
Teleconference described in the subject of this message. <b><br>
<br>
</b>Minute taker: Tobias S. Josefowitz<b> </b>
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Attendees (in alphabetical order)</h2>
Arno Fiedler (D-TRUST), Ben Wilson (Mozilla), Bruce Morton
(Entrust Datacard), Clint Wilson (Apple), Corey Bonnell
(SecureTrust), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com), Daniela Hood (GoDaddy),
Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug
Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin Hollenback (Microsoft), Inaba
Atsushi (GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Jos Purvis
(Cisco Systems), Karina Sirota (Microsoft), Li-Chun Chen
(Chunghwa Telecom), Mads Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Michael
Guenther (SwissSign), Michelle Coon (OATI), Neil Dunbar
(TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter (SecureTrust), Patrick Nohe
(GlobalSign), Pedro Fuentes (OISTE Foundation), Peter Miskovic
(Disig), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan
Sleevi (Google), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Tobias Josefowitz
(Opera Software AS), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Wayne Thayer
(Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority),
Taconis Lewis (FPKI).
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Minutes <br>
</h2>
<h3> 1. Roll Call<br>
</h3>
<h3> </h3>
The Chair took attendance.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">2. Read Antitrust Statement<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Antitrust Statement was read. </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">3. Review Agenda<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">Accepted without changes.</p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">4. Approval of minutes from previous
teleconference</h3>
<h3 class="MsoNormal"> </h3>
Accepted without objections.
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">5. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee
update</h3>
Jos reports:<br>
<br>
We briefly discussed our infrastructure issues, particularly
with mail, part of the problem that happened with the wiki
server might be related to AWS blocking outbound SMTP by
default, we will investigate how to get it fixed one way or
another (port opened or service moved).<br>
<br>
We did not have any further minutes on the Pandoc work, Dimitris
will sit down and go through that for the next ballot and will
see if any corrections should be needed, but we ought to be in
pretty good shape there.<br>
<br>
We had a good discussion around the virtual conference in June
and agreed we would demo some of the available webex
possibilities to see what are the options, but webex also has
additional services for events and training which we would also
look into.<br>
<br>
Finally big discussion about the webex account, it has been
transitioned last year. It is a donated account, Dimitris has
stepped forward and offered for HARICA to own the account,
because HARICA is an official non-profit that we can donate to
while CABF isn't one. However, as we are moving between
accounts, the Chairs need to be aware that because this you will
need to schedule new meetings for your meetings.<br>
<br>
Dimitris: If we are transitioning we need to create new links
and new rooms for the meetings, but we fortunately have all the
information collected on the wiki and we have 6 meeting rooms we
need to schedule and we can do this sooner then later, I'm just
having a little trouble navigating the new account because it
seems to be some different version and the configuration panel
looks different. Anyway, we'll get this ready, I will work with
Josh to get this ready and coordinate with Subcommittee chairs
to get the links around.
<p>The draft minutes of that particular Subcommittee meeting are
available at the following URL:<br>
</p>
<ul>
<li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2020-April/000217.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2020-April/000217.html</a></li>
</ul>
<p> </p>
<ul>
</ul>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">6. Code Signing Working Group update</h3>
<p>Dean: We are not going to have a meeting during the F2F, we
are combining the EV Guidelines and the regular BRs, Bruce is
managing the compilation with input from all the different
members. We have a open items we reviewed during the meeting,
about the validity period of a signing service, about the
minimum keysize effective January 1st is going to be 3072 bit
RSA (was not a requirement for EV but will then to be applied
to EV as well). Some confusion about eKUs; WG will investigate
removing the EKUs for email and document signing to not
conflict with future products of the S/MIME WG. Bruce will
update the document once more re: the just listed items.</p>
<p>The draft minutes of that particular Subcommittee meeting are
available at the following URL:</p>
<ul>
<li><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2020-April/000088.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/cscwg-public/2020-April/000088.html</a></li>
</ul>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">7. New S/MIME WG Charter</h3>
Tim: Ryan, there still is a grammar mistake that Corey
identified last night.<br>
Ryan: Fixed.<br>
Tim: You fixed some other typos but not these.<br>
Ryan: Allright, Corey left a large number of comments.<br>
Tim: They're mostly on the issue of the one sentence publicly
trusted root certs may be poorly documented. If we could improve
that sentence... Ryan if you can fix that last typo I can get
the ballot out<br>
Ryan: Not sure where it is.<br>
Tim: If you don't find it just ping me. I am hoping we will get
the ballot out today and then we will see if we will resolve the
issue about what publicly trusted means...<br>
<br>
Dimitris: So the goal is to proceed despite the poorly described
publicly trusted terminology and discuss it further in the
discussion period.<br>
<br>
Tim: Yes.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">8. Agenda Topics for the upcoming F2F<br>
</h3>
<p>Dimitris: Does anyone have topics for discussion?<br>
<br>
If anybody has an idea of a good topic to discuss on our
virtual meeting send it to the public list or to Dimitris.</p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">9.
Any Other Business</h3>
<br>
Dimitris: I would like to remind people about the update to our
Bylaws, FORUM-12 Ballot: Under preparation I made some last
minute updates which I missed from Ryan's comments. I believe I
have no other comments to address. Still looking for an
additional endorser, anyone willing on this list?<br>
<br>
Tim: here<br>
<br>
Dimitris: Ok, endorsed by Tim and Mike.<br>
<br>
About the upcoming F2F virtual meeting:<br>
Dean: We developed the ground rules for the meeting but haven't
sent them out yet because everyone would just forget about them,
I plan to send them out just a few weeks before the meeting,
does that seem reasonable?<br>
<br>
Dimitris: I have already posted them on the wiki. First I would
please like everybody to register for the meeting. Right now the
Ground Rules are a bit of in draft status, we will get them more
solid the closer we get to the meeting, any proposals for
changes or additions are very much welcome. We will send a
reminder when we get closer to the meeting.<br>
<br>
Still have to do some demos and tryouts with Josh to figure out
the best setup and configs for this large meeting.
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</ul>
<h3 class="MsoNormal"
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Next call<br>
</h3>
May 14, 2020 at 11:30 am Eastern Time.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">Adjourned</h3>
<h3><b>F2F Meeting Schedule: </b></h3>
<ul>
<li>2020: <b>June 9-11</b> (Virtual Meeting), October 20-22
Tokyo (GlobalSign)</li>
<li>2021: Feb-March San Jose, CA (Cisco), June – Poland
(Asseco-Certum), October - Minneapolis (OATI) <br>
</li>
<li>2022: Mar-April Dubai (DarkMatter) or New Delhi /
Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - <font color="#ff0000">[Open]</font>,
October - New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra) or Dubai
(DarkMatter) </li>
</ul>
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