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These are the final Minutes of the Teleconference described in
the subject of this message.
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Attendees (in alphabetical order)</h2>
Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris Kemmerer (SSL.com),
Daniela Hood (GoDaddy), Dean Coclin (Digicert), Dimitris
Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Doug Beattie (GlobalSign), Dustin
Hollenback (Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Inaba Atsushi
(GlobalSign), Janet Hines (SecureTrust), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy),
Kenneth Myers (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Kirk Hall
(Entrust Datacard), Li-Chun Chen (Chunghwa Telecom), Mike Reilly
(Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor Systems), Niko Carpenter
(SecureTrust), Peter Miskovic (Disig), Rich Smith (Sectigo),
Robin Alden (Sectigo), Ryan Sleevi (Google), Scott Rea (Dark
Matter), Tim Hollebeek (Digicert), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon),
Wayne Thayer (Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management
Authority), Xiu Lei (GDCA).
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Minutes <br>
</h2>
<h3> 1. Roll Call<br>
</h3>
The Chair took attendance.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">2. Read Antitrust Statement<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Antitrust Statement was read. </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">3. Review Agenda<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">No changes to the agenda.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">4. Approval of minutes from previous
teleconference</h3>
The minutes from the previous teleconference were approved and
will be circulated to the public list.<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3>5. Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee update</h3>
The subcommittee has to choose between two dates for meetings
and it is more likely to follow the previous meeting schedule.
Discussions related to the markdown fix ballot should move to
the server certificate WG public list.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">6. Code Signing Working Group update </h3>
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</xml><![endif]-->Bruce gave the update and mentioned that they had a
short meeting discussing about the ballot to change the date for
SHA1 prohibition. The WG also discussed about creating a CA
survey in an attempt to set the baseline on where CAs stand for
code signing changes to the current requirements. They also
discussed about topics for discussion at the F2F. The minutes of
the last meeting have not been drafted yet.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">7.
Follow-up on new S/MIME WG Charter</h3>
Tim mentioned that there is no progress on that topic. Ryan
noted that there is an agenda slot assigned to this topic and
that we had a path forward where the identity issues would be
out of scope and the last thing missing is for someone to
finalize that charter.<br>
<br>
Mike mentioned that he will introduce a new Microsoft
representative that will help work on S/MIME and may assist in
this process.<br>
<br>
Dimitris recalled that there were two approaches discussed in
the past about the charter, one was to completely exclude
identity from the charter and another one where identity is
included in the charter but prioritized accordingly so that the
email validation is completed first and then the identity. <br>
<br>
Ryan responded that this was discussed at the last F2F and he
recalls having consensus moving forward without identity in the
charter.<br>
<br>
Dean recalled that there were recommendations and not final
decisions about how to proceed with this issue.<br>
<br>
In any case, in order to proceed we need a draft charter to be
brought for discussion.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">8.
Finalize F2F 48 Agenda<br>
</h3>
The F2F agenda was approved
<h3 class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">9.
Any Other Business</h3>
Dean contacted OATI that will host in Minnesota. They are
checking internally for possible dates. Dean will create a
doodle poll after China once he has some candidate dates.<br>
<br>
Dimitris informed that Asseco-Certum sent the recommended days
for May 2021. Tim, Ryan and others mentioned that some
international conferences have not yet published dates for 2021
and we don't know if there will be any conflicts. Ryan reminded
one of the previous recommendations which was to create a wiki
page and include the names and dates of important industry
conferences so we can try not to overlap with F2F meetings.
IETF, RSA meetings, TSP or CA Days were mentioned as
industry-important meetings that should not conflict with F2F
meetings.<br>
<br>
Doug also mentioned about the meeting in Tokio hosted by
GlobalSign that they are having difficulties hosting in October
and recommended the first week of September. Some members
responded that this might be too soon because OATI will host in
June and the months of July-August are a bit slow in Forum
activity. Doug said Globalsign would discuss internally and get
back with more information.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in">10.
Next call<br>
</h3>
November 14, 2019 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.
<h3 class="MsoNormal">Adjourned</h3>
<h3><b>F2F Meeting Schedule: </b></h3>
<ul>
<li>2019: November 5-7– Guangzhou (GDCA)</li>
<li>2020: Feb<font color="#ff0000"> <font color="#000000">18-20
</font></font>Bratislava (Disig), June – Minneapolis
(OATI), October – Tokyo (GlobalSign)</li>
<li>2021: Feb-March Dubai (DarkMatter), May-June Poland
(Asseco-Certum), October <font color="#ff0000">[Open]</font></li>
<li>2022: Mar-April New Delhi / Bengaluru (e-Mudhra), June - <font
color="#ff0000">[Open]</font>, October <font
color="#ff0000">[Open]</font></li>
</ul>
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