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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Rats—I knew I’d forgotten something. I’ll resubmit. </span><span style='font-family:"Apple Color Emoji"'>😊</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (<a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com"><span style='color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | +1 919.991.9114 (desk)</span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> on behalf of CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Wayne Thayer <wthayer@mozilla.com>, CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:32 PM<br><b>To: </b>CA/B Forum Public List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [cabfpub] Ballot FORUM-10: Re-charter Forum Infrastructure Working Group<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jos,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for posting this. Two comments:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- You need to indicate who your two endorsers are. Ben and I had previously offered to endorse.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Per bylaw section 2.3(3) it's at least preferable to leave the voting start and end dates empty until you begin the voting. That allows for new versions to be posted that reset the 7-day minimum discussion period.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>- Wayne<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:09 PM Jos Purvis (jopurvis) via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><i><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Ballot Forum-10: Re-charter Forum Infrastructure Work</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Overview</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>The Forum Infrastructure Working Group (FIWG) was chartered during a period when the CABF Bylaws did not permit for the creation of subcommittees at the Forum level (only under a particular Working Group). Since the work the FIWG needed to undertake was pressing and covered the needs of the Forum as a whole, it was chartered as a Working Group to permit this work to begin under the existing Bylaws.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>With the completion of the recent Bylaws changes, subcommittees may now be constructed at the Forum level. In addition, the recent changes to Bylaws and membership have identified a hole by which membership in the FIWG could be used to “back-door” membership in the Forum as a whole, an unintended consequence worth squashing.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>This ballot, therefore, lays down the existing FIWG and immediately re-charters a Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee to continue its work.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Gory Details</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>24 hours after this ballot passes the following will occur:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>The existing Forum Infrastructure Working Group will be dissolved per the Bylaws section 5.3.2 item 3.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>A new Infrastructure Subcommittee will be chartered under the CA/B Forum, per the Bylaws section 5.6, with the Charter of that Subcommittee as described below.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>3.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>The existing mailing list for the FIWG will be repurposed for the use of the Subcommittee, following an announcement to that end on the existing FIWG mailer.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>4.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>The existing wiki pages from the FIWG will be archived, and a new space created for the Subcommittee's use under the main Forum namespace.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee (FIS) Charter</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Scope</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - The authorized scope of the Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee shall be as follows:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To oversee the acquisition, operation, and maintenance of the common CA/Browser Forum website and wiki resources;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To coordinate updates to public and Forum-facing web and wiki content in support of the Forum Webmaster role established in the Bylaws;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To create and manage the division of access and content spaces required to help ensure the separation of the work of various Working Groups and accompanying IP commitments, as described in the Forum’s IPR Policy;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To manage the technical means of production of guidelines and other documents produced by the Forum's subcommittees;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To manage the Forum-level email lists and to offer management of working-group and subcommittee mailing lists as needed in support of the Forum List Manager role established in the Bylaws;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>To perform other activities ancillary to the primary activities listed above.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>End Date</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - This Subcommittee shall continue until it is dissolved by a vote of the CA/B Forum.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Deliverables</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - The Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee shall be responsible for delivering wiki and mailing list services to the Forum on an ongoing basis, and supplying access to these and to the management tools for these as is appropriate and required by the Forum. The subcommittee shall not propose any changes to the Bylaws or IPR agreements itself: where issues with these are identified, they may be redirected to the Forum as a whole or to appropriate subcommittees or working groups for further consideration.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Participation</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - Any member of the CAB Forum is eligible and may declare their participation in the Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee by requesting to be added to the mailing list. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Chair</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - Jos Purvis shall be the initial Chair of the Forum Infrastructure Subcommittee. The Chair shall not have a fixed term, but the Subcommittee may change its Chair from time to time by consensus of the Members participating in the Subcommittee or by voting method chosen by the Members by consensus.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Communication</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - Subcommittee communications and documents shall be posted on mailing-lists where the mail-archives are publicly accessible, and the Subcommittee shall publish minutes of its meetings to the Forum wiki.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Effect of Forum Bylaws Amendment for Subcommittees</span></b><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'> - In the event the Forum Bylaws are amended to add or modify general rules governing Forum Subcommittees and how they operate (“General Rules”), the provisions of the General Rules shall take precedence over this charter.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:black'>Key Dates</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=240 valign=top style='width:2.5in;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:right'><i><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ballot Discussion Begins</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=192 valign=top style='width:2.0in;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>20 Sept 2019 21:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=240 valign=top style='width:2.5in;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor rgb(127,127,127)'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:right'><i><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ballot Discussion Concludes</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=192 valign=top style='width:2.0in;border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor rgb(127,127,127)'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>27 Sept 2019 21:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=240 valign=top style='width:2.5in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:right'><i><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ballot Vote Begins</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=192 valign=top style='width:2.0in;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>27 Sept 2019 22:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=240 valign=top style='width:2.5in;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:right'><i><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Ballot Vote Ends</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=192 valign=top style='width:2.0in;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;border-color:currentcolor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'>4 Oct 2019 22:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Georgia",serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black'>-- <br>Jos Purvis (<a href="mailto:jopurvis@cisco.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#954F72'>jopurvis@cisco.com</span></a>)<br>.:|:.:|:. cisco systems | Cryptographic Services<br>PGP: 0xFD802FEE07D19105 | +1 919.991.9114 (desk)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">Public@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" target="_blank">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>