<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Here is the proposed change: <a href="https://github.com/cabforum/documents/commit/4866f8f85665cb308f6d5429ad64797e1e9e8d37">https://github.com/cabforum/documents/commit/4866f8f85665cb308f6d5429ad64797e1e9e8d37</a><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 2:41 PM Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, sorry<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tim Hollebeek <<a href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" target="_blank">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 25, 2019 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wayne Thayer <<a href="mailto:wthayer@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wthayer@mozilla.com</a>>; Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" target="_blank">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]RE: [cabfpub] Bylaws 2.2 Pre-Ballot<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Reversed, of course? Since the IPR agreement uses letters and the goal was to be able to use numbered lists.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5.3.1 Formation of Chartered Working Groups<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="gmail-m_7587081412806895429MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">[Referred to as 5.3.1(a) in the IPR agreement]<br>
Members who desire …<u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_7587081412806895429MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">The charter shall …<u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_7587081412806895429MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">…<u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_7587081412806895429MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">…<u></u><u></u></li><li class="gmail-m_7587081412806895429MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">[Referred to as 5.3.1(e) in the IPR agreement]<br>
CWGs may …<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Tim<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Wayne Thayer <<a href="mailto:wthayer@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wthayer@mozilla.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 25, 2019 1:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" target="_blank">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tim Hollebeek <<a href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" target="_blank">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Bylaws 2.2 Pre-Ballot<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I prefer Kirk's suggestion.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 1:39 PM Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com" target="_blank">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another option is to keep with the regular Bylaws numbering, and include a reference to IPRA in parenthesis:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">5.3.1(a) [Referred to as 5.3.1(1) in IPR Agreement ]: Blah blah<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Public <<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Hollebeek via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 25, 2019 1:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wayne Thayer <<a href="mailto:wthayer@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wthayer@mozilla.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Bylaws 2.2 Pre-Ballot<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I like it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Tim<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Wayne Thayer <<a href="mailto:wthayer@mozilla.com" target="_blank">wthayer@mozilla.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 25, 2019 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Hollebeek <<a href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" target="_blank">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <<a href="mailto:dzacharo@harica.gr" target="_blank">dzacharo@harica.gr</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Bylaws 2.2 Pre-Ballot<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to propose an alternative that facilitates markdown formatting and the change to numbers in section 5.3.1: Add the following to the end of section 5.3.1:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(a) To resolve references to section 5.3.1(a), refer to section 5.3.1(1).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(e) To resolve references to section 5.3.1(e), refer to section 5.3.1(5).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would this be acceptable?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:30 AM Tim Hollebeek <<a href="mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com" target="_blank">tim.hollebeek@digicert.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would suggest that this means we need to stick to letters for 5.3.1 for now, and remember to avoid making the same mistake in the future.<u></u><u></u></p>
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