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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I was asked if I would be the expert when 6844 was in last call. I agreed. I thought I was the expert until it turned out it was never recorded.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Since there is no code space shortage in CAA (by intent), the only real function an expert really needs perform is to point out if there is an existing code point assigned for a purpose (unlikely at this point), suggest a more general approach if something is hyper-specific or advise on style.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>With six code points assigned (three of which are obsolete), collision is not very likely.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Hollebeek via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 26, 2018 4:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com>; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <servercert-wg@cabforum.org>; Doug Beattie <doug.beattie@globalsign.com><br><b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] [Servercert-wg] [Ext] Voting Begins: SC13 version 5: CAA Contact Property and Associated E-mail Validation Methods<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Thanks Ryan,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Your memory matches mine. Unfortunately it might take a little bit of time since the registry was never set up when RFC 6844 passed (I believe this was mentioned in passing in London). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’ll poke people in Prague if it isn’t resolved by then, but the wheels of IETF bureaucracy are slowly grinding forward now.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>-Tim<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org">servercert-wg-bounces@cabforum.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi via Servercert-wg<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 21, 2018 1:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Doug Beattie <<a href="mailto:doug.beattie@globalsign.com">doug.beattie@globalsign.com</a>>; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Servercert-wg] [Ext] Voting Begins: SC13 version 5: CAA Contact Property and Associated E-mail Validation Methods<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM Doug Beattie via Servercert-wg <<a href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Rob,<br><br>Is there any reason we can't submit this to the IESG now saying "we're<br>planning to add a property that we think meets the requirements, and as soon<br>as you assign an expert reviewer we will submit this to the registry"? It's<br>unfortunate this question wasn't raised earlier,<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>To be fair to Rob, this issue has been raised in the past. This was discussed in the Validation WG as far back as London [1][2] as to the order of operations. In that plan, Tim stated his intent to do exactly what Rob suggested, and what the process would have been - to either publish an I-D in the IETF or as an appendix in the BRs, to discuss with IANA for Expert Review, and then adopt as permissible within the BRs. This ballot combines those first and third steps and skips the second.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>This omission seemed deliberate and intentional, as captured in the past discussion [3], but perhaps there was some confusion in those statements. To be clear, though, the ordering requirement that Rob's highlighting here did continue to come up [4], as well as commitments to engage the IANA process.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>[1] <a href="https://cabforum.org/2018/06/06/minutes-for-ca-browser-forum-f2f-meeting-44-london-6-7-june-2018/">https://cabforum.org/2018/06/06/minutes-for-ca-browser-forum-f2f-meeting-44-london-6-7-june-2018/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>[2] <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-June/000915.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-June/000915.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>[3] <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-July/000960.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-July/000960.html</a> with the counter-point and concerns at <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-July/000962.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-July/000962.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>[4] <a href="https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-August/000990.html">https://cabforum.org/pipermail/validation/2018-August/000990.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>