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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/12/2018 3:57 μ.μ., Doug Beattie
via Public wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tim,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The rules for voting might have changed
with the new Bylaws (or at least the updates could cause some
confusion on where to vote because there are 2 mail lists
now), so it’s worth a reminder on which list to post votes
to. The bylaws, section 2.3 says: All voting will take place
via the Public Mail List</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s my understanding that voting takes
place ONLY on the public list (<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>),
so any votes cast on a working group lists won’t be counted,
is that correct? Your email went to both the Public list and
the servercert-wg list which might cause some confusion on
which list to use. “Kamu SM” sent their vote only to the
servercert-wg list, so it won’t be counted.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is the Public list “THE” list to use for
voting? If so, then I think reminders about the ballot voting
period should be sent only to that list so there isn’t any
confusion when replying to vote.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doug</p>
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Hi Doug,<br>
<br>
Thanks for bringing up this issue. I also noticed this when I took
over as Chair and brought it to the attention of the Vice-Chairs.
The Server Certificate Working Group HAS a Public List of its own (<a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>).
The expectation is for discussions/voting and all activities
specific to the Working Group to be conducted using the <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">"servercert-wg@cabforum.org"</a>
mailing list. We even have separate agendas, read the Antitrust
statement separately, so voting should be no different.<br>
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The current practice, until this issue is clarified, is to count
Member's votes for SCWG ballots when posted to any of the two lists
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>).
For Forum ballots, only votes sent to the <a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a> list are counted.<br>
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An updated charter of the SCWG could make it explicit that SCWG
ballot votes will only be counted when posted (and archived) at the
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:servercert-wg@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">servercert-wg@cabforum.org</a>.
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I am working on an updated version of the Bylaws and might add some
language to clarify this also. I plan on sending it to the public
list when it's ready. A Governance
Subcommittee/WG/group/task-force/team/whatever would be a tremendous
help here. I can send you a draft if you have time to review.<br>
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<br>
Thanks,<br>
Dimitris.<br>
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