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<p class="MsoNormal">These are the Approved Minutes of the
Teleconference described in the subject of this message.</p>
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Attendees (in alphabetical order)</h2>
<p>Anna Weinberg (Apple), Arno Fiedler (D-TRUST), Ben Wilson
(Digicert), Bruce Morton (Entrust Datacard), Chris Kemmerer
(SSL.com), Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA), Dustin Hollenback
(Microsoft), Enrico Entschew (D-TRUST), Fotis Loukos
(SSL.com), Frank Corday (Trustwave), Geoff Keating (Apple),
Gordon Bock (Microsoft), Inaba Atsushi (GlobalSign), India
Donald (US Federal PKI Management Authority), Jeff Ward (CPA
Canada/WebTrust), Joanna Fox (GoDaddy), Jos Purvis (Cisco
Systems), Kenneth Myers (US Federal PKI Management Authority),
Kirk Hall (Entrust Datacard), Leo Grove (SSL.com), Mads
Henriksveen (Buypass AS), Marcelo Silva (Visa), Michelle Coon
(OATI), Mike Reilly (Microsoft), Neil Dunbar (TrustCor
Systems), Rich Smith (Sectigo), Robin Alden (Sectigo), Tim
Callan (Sectigo), Trevoli Ponds-White (Amazon), Wayne Thayer
(Mozilla), Wendy Brown (US Federal PKI Management Authority).</p>
<h2 class="MsoNormal">Minutes <br>
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<h3> 1. Roll Call<br>
</h3>
The Chair took attendance<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">2. Read Antitrust Statement<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">The Chair asked mr. Robin Alden to read the
Antitrust Statement<br>
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<h3 class="MsoNormal">3. Review Agenda<br>
</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">Today's Agenda was approved.</p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">4. Approval of Minutes of CABF F2F Meeting
of Oct. 17, 2018 </h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">The minutes were approved and will be
posted to the Public web site and a link to those minutes will
be posted to the Public mailing list.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">5. Approval of Minutes of previous
teleconference</h3>
The minutes of November 1, 2018 teleconference were approved and
will be posted to the Public list and the Public web site.<br>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">6. Application of DarkMatter for CABF
Membership<br>
</h3>
The Application was approved under the "Certificate Issuer"
type. It was clarified that their certificates are Trusted by
Certificate Consumers via a cross-signing agreement.<br>
<br>
Dimitris brought up section 4.5 of the IPR policy that contain
provisions for new Participants, in relation to existing Final
Guidelines, Final Maintenance Guidelines and also Draft versions
of those. He will bring this to DarkMatter's attention and come
up with a workable plan to meet this requirement. Kirk offered
to help with the drafting of a document for new Participants in
order to meet this IPR Policy requirement.<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">7. Follow-up on new WG Charters<br>
</h3>
Ben is still working on a Bylaws and Governance Charter and is
waiting for a resolution about whether this will be a Working
Group or a Subcommittee. The other Charters are not tied to
this. It was suggested that the Scope of each of the new WGs
(related to Code Signing and S/MIME) would require some
discussion and it should probably be discussed on the public
list in parallel.<br>
<br>
Kirk suggested to Ben working on an amendment of Bylaw 5.3 which
describe how new CWGs are setup, and perhaps add mandatory
provisions applicable to all CWGs for matters related to public
minutes, posting things on a public mailing list. That would
save this from being repeated in every CWG charter.<br>
<br>
Kirk noted that the Certificate Consumers for new Working Groups
will need to be described and suggested we discuss this topic on
the public list as well.<br>
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<h3>8. Forum Infrastructure Working Group update</h3>
Jos reported that the WG shall create a list of document
requirements on the wiki and add a column to decide about "must
have", "nice to have" features for these documents. Depending on
what the WG determines as "must have", we can check how close we
can get with Markdown and see if this will be a solution going
forward.<br>
<br>
Then the WG discussed about similar wiki requirements matrix,
possible solutions and discussed about one potential solution,
Sharepoint, where Gordon made a nice demo.<br>
<br>
Kirk noted that ballot formats should stay the same as much as
possible. Members can use whatever tools they prefer but the
Chair would usually need to create a version.<br>
<br>
Jos replied that this work would result in defining *A*
canonical format of the documents and all the others would be
derivatives of that. We would have to write a procedure to make
these updates but that's to be determined later.<br>
<br>
Dimitris said that he participates in this WG and one of the
goals is to make sure all the popular formats (PDF, word) are
supported and produced by whatever canonical format is decided.
That would make red-line comparisons between similar formats
easy, hopefully.<br>
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Ballot Status </h3>
<h4><u>Ballots in Discussion Period</u><br>
</h4>
No ballots are in a Discussion Period.<br>
<h4 class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:1.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:1.0pt;margin-left:0in"><u>Draft
Ballots under Consideration</u><br>
</h4>
<br>
No comments were made.<br>
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Any Other Business</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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asked about the invitation letters that some participants
requested for the Cupertino meeting. Geoff said that members
that need an invitation letter can email him directly (for
Invitation Letter matters only) and he would make sure it
reaches the right people for the completion of the process.
Once Apple finalizes the procedure for creating such letters,
Geoff will send a message to the management list with
information and instructions.<br>
</p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">11. Next call</h3>
<p class="MsoNormal">November 29, 2018 at 11:00 am Eastern Time.</p>
<h3 class="MsoNormal">Adjourned</h3>
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