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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for taking the time to write this, Kirk. I’ll endorse.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-Tim<o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>From:</b> Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirk Hall via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> CABFPub <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>I am proposing the following ballot – <u>are there two endorsers</u>? If we move soon on this, we can get this ballot approved before October 3, and there will be no lapse for these two Subcommittees. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>(<u>Note</u>: I considered also converting the Governance Change Working Group to a Subcommittee, but it doesn’t belong as a Subcommittee of the SCWG, and our Bylaws do not permit Subcommittees of the Forum itself. Also, Dimitris and Ben seem not to want to convert the Policy Working Group to a Subcommittee of the SCWG, so I have not included that.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>Ballot SC9 – Conversion of Validation and NetSec Working Groups to SCWG Subcommittees<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>Purpose of Ballot: <o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>All Working Groups of the Forum will expire on October 3, 2018. Bylaws Sections 5.3.1(e) and 5.3.4 allow any “Legacy” Working Groups (“LWG”) in existence when Bylaws v.1.9 was approved by the Forum to be converted to a Subcommittee of a Chartered Working Group pursuant to the procedures of Bylaws Section 5.3.1(e). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>The Server Certificate Working Group wishes to convert the existing Validation Working Group and Network Security Working Group of the Forum into Subcommittees of the Server Certificate Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>--- MOTION BEGINS ---<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>In accordance with Bylaws 5.3.1(e) and 5.3.4, the Server Certificate Working Group (SCWG) hereby converts the following Legacy Working Groups of the CA/Browser Forum (CABF) to Subcommittees of the SCWG, effective upon approval of this ballot. The current Chairs of the Legacy Working Groups shall become the initial Chairs of the SCWG Subcommittees. There shall be no expiry date for either SCWG Subcommittee.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>1. The Validation Working Group of the CABF is converted to the Validation Subcommittee of the SCWG.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>2. The Network Security Working Group of the CABF is converted to the Network Security Subcommittee of the SCWG.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>--- MOTION ENDS ---<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>The procedure for approval of this ballot is as follows:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>Discussion (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>Start Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>End Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>Vote for approval (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>Start Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>End Time: 2018-09-xx, 7:00 am Eastern Time<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>***<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'>Additional Information<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>Ballot 143 – Formalization of Validation Working Group (approved Feb 2015)</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><a href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/Nn3HCo1ed6_tK9Z1BR5oxUbqA2Ys76GaBJzLaRu_uCc=?d=G14XipYp51dRpHIPn-RhS0wEmGHpnuAkExJG0pDIRjEEeb1Xszrl48tjZ-jxNK6b2v0wtaYif-XdaZ_vNhTwPdg889CDYUCdAK7jwr1c31LHAXjT15GjQQjvuzoP1OVpRnc9kQBEx_0QHXFXBvRk_5VLG0Gsh7k-2e0ceq6OcU-Dz3Z8hdDhqf0n1XyoKs-0q-FwpomYxgRD8X2A262rSgOAC1TEv9OUBafT2c-7eTRJGdxjALL393ccLqhoCHL2yQhZULYgzcAXgdn5GAJTWIt2ZU786AkkdeXEKEYg24aSi5n5eKr9LQSEIsEVj9ufJLjI07_KzSzcXNOrZRXJt9DCjLWPZNtyRtpAHkBKV-5dOEYoF8dr6Y8W2tKx1TIIjYzuJzOWF8oYU-yxxi4Jfr-veSUiehv158ZABTcJLBfIVUxB1m3aWH41E9sO_fqCJ8nFZ7QB1C43FO2D9GzwYVcSG83-UK1iZcgHFEyFynxsyHsDUg%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2F143%2520-%2520Formalization%2520of%2520validation%2520working%2520group">https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/143%20-%20Formalization%20of%20validation%20working%20group</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The CA-Browser Forum formally establishes the Validation Working Group as an official working group of the CAB Forum, replacing the previous informal EV working group. The scope of this working group is to address issues arising under adopted CAB Forum standards related to the validation of certificate information and the inclusion of information in certificates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Scope: The Validation Working Group will consider all matters relating to the validation and inclusion of information in certificates under adopted CAB Forum guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Deliverables: The Working Group shall produce one or more documents offering options to the Forum for validation within the scope defined above.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>Ballot 203 – Formation of Network Security Working Group (approved June 2017)<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><a href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/Si2ZiH5l54nHfg2HTjEPqjhMmJGrf1z_cv7iWFk6Fgg=?d=G14XipYp51dRpHIPn-RhS0wEmGHpnuAkExJG0pDIRjEEeb1Xszrl48tjZ-jxNK6b2v0wtaYif-XdaZ_vNhTwPdg889CDYUCdAK7jwr1c31LHAXjT15GjQQjvuzoP1OVpRnc9kQBEx_0QHXFXBvRk_5VLG0Gsh7k-2e0ceq6OcU-Dz3Z8hdDhqf0n1XyoKs-0q-FwpomYxgRD8X2A262rSgOAC1TEv9OUBafT2c-7eTRJGdxjALL393ccLqhoCHL2yQhZULYgzcAXgdn5GAJTWIt2ZU786AkkdeXEKEYg24aSi5n5eKr9LQSEIsEVj9ufJLjI07_KzSzcXNOrZRXJt9DCjLWPZNtyRtpAHkBKV-5dOEYoF8dr6Y8W2tKx1TIIjYzuJzOWF8oYU-yxxi4Jfr-veSUiehv158ZABTcJLBfIVUxB1m3aWH41E9sO_fqCJ8nFZ7QB1C43FO2D9GzwYVcSG83-UK1iZcgHFEyFynxsyHsDUg%3D%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2F203%2520-%2520Formation%2520of%2520Network%2520Security%2520Working%2520Group">https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/203%20-%20Formation%20of%20Network%20Security%20Working%20Group</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Scope<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>1. Consider options for revising, replacing or scrapping the Network Security Guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Deliverables<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>1. A report with one or more proposals for the future of the Network Security Guidelines.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>2. For proposals involving replacement, details of the availability and applicability of the proposed alternative, and what modifications if any would be needed to it in order to make it suitable for use.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>3. For proposals involving revision, details of the revisions that are deemed necessary and how the document will be kept current in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>4. For proposals involving scrapping, an explanation of why this is preferable to either of the other two options.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>5. If there are multiple proposals, optionally a recommendation as to which one to pursue and an associated timeline.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>6. A form of ballot or ballots to implement any recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Expiry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=line874 style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The Working Group shall expire once the deliverables have been completed, or on 2018-06-19, whichever happens first. The expiry date given above shall be automatically postponed by 1 year on 2018-05-19 ("postponement date") and each anniversary of the postponement date thereafter unless three or more members separately or jointly request on the Public Mail List, within one month prior to a particular postponement date, that expiry of this Working Group not be postponed in that instance.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>Bylaws v1.9<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><b>5.3.1 Formation of Chartered Working Groups<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none'>(e) CWGs may establish any number of subcommittees within its own Working Group to address any of such CWG’s business (each, a “Subcommittee”). A CWG-created Subcommittee needs to be approved by the CWG itself according to the approval process set forth in the CWG charter, but approval of the Forum is not necessary. Subcommittees must exist under an approved CWG.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none'><b>5.3.4 Legacy Working Groups<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none'>Any “Legacy” Working Groups (“LWG”) in existence when this Bylaws v.1.8 is approved by the Forum shall have the option of (a) converting to a Subcommittee under a CWG pursuant to Section 5.3.1(e), (b) immediately terminating, or (c) continuing in effect without change for 6 months following such approval. For an LWG to continue beyond such 6 months, it must have a charter approved as described in Section 5.3.1 above, as if it was a new Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>