<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks for the list, Wayne. Responses inline. Remember, a Subcommittee has no real power, it’s just a place where members interested in a subject who want to be involved
in drafting proposals for the whole SCWG can work together – we have 10+ years of successful experience with this approach, and are just continuing it at the SCWG level.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">[Wayne] To respond to Kirk's question about subjects that need to be better defined, here is a start:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* Do Subcommittees have Chairs and if so how are they appointed? [KH] Yes, for the same reason we had Chairs for old-style Working Groups of the Forum. There is no change
here (BTW, our Bylaws didn’t include rules for old WG Chairs either – somehow it all worked out). Dean has correctly listed what a Chair does. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This answer doesn't suffice, because our new Bylaws do change things substantially, and the reasons for the old structure of WGs doesn't just naturally change to SCWGs.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8407662773872289959WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* How are Subcommittees chartered? (are they chartered?) [KH] Same as in the past when we created old-style WGs of the Forum – by ballots, in this case SCWG ballots. No change
here.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is half correct, but misses the point of the question. The SCWG is responsible for defining how Subcommittees are created, per our Bylaws - and it has not. Yet.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8407662773872289959WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* What are the required contents of a Subcommittee charter? [KH] Same as in the past when we created old-style WGs of the Forum – by ballot language. We never had problems
in drafting the ballots that created old WGs of the Forum – see Ballots 109, 128, 138, 143, 165, and 203. No change here. What problem do you see from following our past procedure?</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Obviously, there's nothing you can point to support this interpretation, and your interpretation itself isn't supported by the Bylaws, because the SCWG does not define what you just stated.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8407662773872289959WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* How are Subcommittees operated? [KH] In the same fashion as old WGs of the Forum were operated – teleconferences and informal procedures. No change here. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Again, this is not consistent with the Bylaws. This is your proposed path, but this is not the defined path.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8407662773872289959WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* What information is public/private? Do they have their own mailing lists? [KH] Same as the way information was handled for the old WGs of the Forum – I think old WG information
has always been posted to the Public list, so the new Subcommittees will simply post to the SCWG list, which is public. No change here.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>Again, this is not consistent with the Bylaws. This is your proposed path, but this is not the defined path.</div></div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> </span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8407662773872289959WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">* How are Subcommittees dissolved? [KH] In the same fashion as old WGs of the Forum were handled. If a Subcommittee has no work to do, it can stop meeting until it has more
work, or I suppose we can have a new ballot to dissolve the Subcommittee, if we care. Most Subcommittees will have ongoing work to do (Validation, NetSec), so should be perpetual. We may create other Subcommittees that should have a specific termination
date in the ballot that creates the Subcommittee it if we believe that is appropriate, as we did once in the past. No change here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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