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<font face="Cambria">Tim, you have the second endorser.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
M.D.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/7/2018 5:26 PM, Tim Hollebeek via
Public wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is correct. The ballot requirements
for endorsers and discussion periods applies to _<i>all</i>_
ballots. The bylaws are pretty clear on that; it’s even in
the title of section 2.3.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The fact that 4.1(c) of the bylaws requires
a ballot does not override the usual ballot rules.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I really hate to nitpick about things like
this, but I felt I had to point it out.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also if we could get a second endorser to
fix the voting rules after Ballot 216 got accidentally
overwritten, that’d be great. I can write up the ballot over
the weekend.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Tim<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Public
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org"><public-bounces@cabforum.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wayne
Thayer via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 6, 2018 6:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com"><Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com></a>; CA/Browser Forum
Public Discussion List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><public@cabforum.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC5: Election of
Server Certificate Working Group Vice Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bylaws section 2.3 ("General Provisions
Applicable to all Ballots") says "Any proposed ballot
needs two endorsements by other Members in order to
proceed." The language in section 4 describing
"confirmation ballots" and "election ballots" appears to
fall under this requirement.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM Kirk
Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#1F497D">DigiCert has not specified
the concerns it has with the form of ballot.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
Ryan Sleevi [mailto:<a
href="mailto:sleevi@google.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">sleevi@google.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 6, 2018 3:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall <<a
href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>>;
CABFPub <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Ballot SC5:
Election of Server Certificate Working Group Vice
Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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this ballot have the same issues with compliance
to our Bylaws that DigiCert noted? That is,
consistency with Section 2.3 of the Bylaws?<o:p></o:p></p>
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Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 5:17 PM Kirk Hall via Public
<<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">public@cabforum.org</a>>
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SC5: Election of Server Certificate
Working Group Vice Chair – Term Nov. 1,
2018 – Oct. 31, 2020</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b> </b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>-Motion
begins-</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In
accordance with Bylaw 4.1(c), <b>Wayne
Thayer </b>is hereby elected Vice Chair
of the Server Certificate Working Group for
a term commencing on November 1, 2018 and
continuing through October 31, 2020.<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>-Motion
ends-</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
procedure for approval of this ballot is as
follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Votes
should be either “Yes” or “No”, and should
be sent to the <b><u>Public</u></b> list.
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Voting
period: (7 days)<o:p></o:p></p>
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Start Time: <b>Thursday, September 6 at
11:00 am Eastern Time</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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End Time: <b>Thursday, September 13, 2018
at 11:00 am Eastern Time</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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