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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Summary based on quotes from my original email to the list:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Original Sony question</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: “Can you please describe the bylaw requirement of “produces a software
product, such as a browser, intended for use by the general public for relying upon certificates and is a member of a CWG”? If we produce a hardware product which includes software which relies upon (public root) certificates, does that meet the definition
of “produces a software product”?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dean Coclin response</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: “Perhaps you can help clarify by stating whether or not Sony makes the underlying
software that runs in the hardware device made by Sony?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sony response</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">: “Limiting the discussion to televisions (the question at-hand), they’re based on
Android TV then with Sony software on top. So, “does Sony make the software” is yes and no. But we *<b>do</b>* write the software that does the cryptographic signature validation.”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Bylaws provide as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(a) All Forum members must *** meet at least one of the following criteria: ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(<u>3)
<b>Certificate Consumer</b>: The member organization produces a software product, such as a browser, intended for use by the general public for relying upon certificates</u> and is a member of a CWG [Chartered Working Group, such as the new Server Certificate
Working Group]<u>.</u><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ryan Sleevi [mailto:sleevi@google.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 27, 2018 10:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kirk Hall <Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com>; CABFPub <public@cabforum.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] [EXTERNAL]Re: Membership Application of Sony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm having trouble finding a clear summary of the question from the message forwarded.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you helpfully re-state it?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It sounds like the question is "Can we join the Forum without joining a CWG" - but that may not be a correct understanding.
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