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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>We seem to have a terminology issue here. What is a server? This is obvious in HTTP but far from obvious in the context of email because there is an inbound and an outbound ‘server’ and it acts as a client and a server at different times.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I agree that certificates used to authenticate Mail Transport Agents are properly part of what the Server WG is specifying. But they may be used by a host acting as a TLS ‘server’ or ‘client’.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Another little oddity is that we are assuming that the entity a CA validates and issues certificates to in the S/MIME world is properly the end user rather than the organization. That might not be the right approach. If what the CA is effectively validating is ‘example.com’, and not ‘alice@’, maybe it is better to perform validation on the organization.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b>From:</b> Public <public-bounces@cabforum.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi via Public<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 17, 2018 7:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Moudrick M. Dadashov <md@ssc.lt>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] For Discussion: S/MIME Working Group Charter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>That's clearly the remit of the Server Certificate Working Group, and should remain so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 7:29 PM, Moudrick M. Dadashov via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Cambria",serif'>Email server certificates not included?<br><br>Thanks,<br>M.D.</span><span class=gmail-><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>On 5/18/2018 1:49 AM, Tim Hollebeek via Public wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>Oops, missed a spot:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'>1. To specify S/MIME Baseline Requirements, Extended Validation Guidelines, Network and Certificate System Security Requirements, and other acceptable practices for the issuance and management of S/MIME certificates used to sign and encrypt emails.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'>Public mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">Public@cabforum.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in'><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" target="_blank">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a><br><a href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" target="_blank">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>