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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks Eric.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I would also like to point out that WEBTRUST PRINCIPLES AND CRITERIA FOR CERTIFICATION AUTHORITIES –SSLBASELINE WITH NETWORK SECURITY Version 2.3, which was updated
in February 2018, (<a href="http://www.webtrust.org/principles-and-criteria/docs/item85437.PDF">http://www.webtrust.org/principles-and-criteria/docs/item85437.PDF</a>) requires passwords to be changed every 3 months. Hopefully webTrust will adjust to the
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot 221 v3: Two-Factor Authentication and Password Improvements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white">FedRAMP has published guidance about the new NIST password/identity guidelines:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also confirmed with the FedRAMP program that the baseline is expected to be updated to match NIST's SP 800-63, and thus avoid the need for any special acceptance. But the point is that FedRAMP is not an obstacle to dropping password rotation
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Geoff Keating via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> On May 15, 2018, at 8:37 AM, Patrick Tronnier via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I want to make it clear that OATI agrees with the minimum 2 year password period as the more secure route. It is FedRAMP and other standards which don’t. J<br>
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I've been looking at FedRAMP, because I was surprised they'd be putting out guidelines that conflict with NIST guidelines, and I can't find this requirement; for the 'high security controls' (<a href="https://www.fedramp.gov/assets/resources/documents/FedRAMP_High_Security_Controls.xlsx" target="_blank">https://www.fedramp.gov/assets/resources/documents/FedRAMP_High_Security_Controls.xlsx</a>),
it does require you have a minimum and maximum password lifetime in IA-05(1)(d), but it says the actual limits are organization-defined, so you can ask the organization to set the maximum lifetime to, say, 3 years.<br>
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