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        lang="EN-US">Hello Dimitris,<br>
        please change the proposed text<br>
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        "ETSI EN 319 401 v2.1.1 or newer" AND "ETSI EN 319 411-1 v1.1.1<br>
        ---------------------------------------<br>
        to<br>
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        "ETSI EN 319 411-1 v1.1.1 or later, or ETSI EN 319 411-2 v.2.1.1
        or later."<br>
        ------------------------------------------<br>
        EN 319 401 "General Policy Requirements for Trust Service
        Providers" covers the basic (eIDAS-) Requirements<br>
        <br>
        I still propose a longer discussing phase >21 days.<br>
        Best regards<br>
        Arno</span></font><i><span
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.04.2018 um 13:58 schrieb Dimitris
      Zacharopoulos via Public:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/4/2018 2:21 μμ, Arno Fiedler
        via Public wrote:<br>
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        cite="mid:37f0462e-dd4b-dffc-056e-f8a56b9fa989@nimbus-berlin.com">
        <p>Hello Dimitris,</p>
        <p>so starting at Mai 1th is fine, if we get 21 days for
          discussion.</p>
        <p>Best regards</p>
        <p>arno<br>
        </p>
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      <br>
      Hi Arno,<br>
      <br>
      The discussion has already begun on April 23rd. As already
      discussed, if no new information is presented, the final ballot
      (with no changes) will be sent, probably on April 30, stating that
      the voting will begin on May 1st with no more possible updates to
      the ballot.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Best Regards,<br>
      Dimitris.<br>
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        cite="mid:37f0462e-dd4b-dffc-056e-f8a56b9fa989@nimbus-berlin.com">
        <p> </p>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.04.2018 um 07:39 schrieb
          Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public:<br>
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          cite="mid:90f5f8c3-23aa-6d16-66ee-c77897f281f2@it.auth.gr"> <br>
          So far the discussion has been quiet which either means people
          generally agree with the ballot or that nobody had time to
          review it :-)<br>
          <br>
          I plan on starting the voting period on May 1st unless we hear
          some strong objections.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Best Regards,<br>
          Dimitris.<br>
          <br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/4/2018 8:18 πμ, Dimitris
            Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:<br>
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            cite="mid:8318780c-e51e-64a6-f604-e6fedc14e5ea@it.auth.gr">
            <p class="line874"><br>
            </p>
            <p class="line874">The following motion has been proposed by
              Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by Moudrick
              M. Dadashov of SSC and Tim Hollebeek from Digicert. <span
                class="anchor" id="line-6"></span><span class="anchor"
                id="line-7"></span></p>
            <p class="line867"><strong>Background</strong>: <span
                class="anchor" id="line-8"></span><span class="anchor"
                id="line-9"></span></p>
            <p class="line874">Section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements
              describes the audit criteria for CAs that issue
              Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This ballot
              attempts to achieve two things: <span class="anchor"
                id="line-10"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-11"></span></p>
            <ol type="1">
              <li>Remove the old ETSI TS documents <span class="anchor"
                  id="line-12"></span></li>
              <li>
                <p class="line862">Align the <span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                  and ETSI requirements <span class="anchor"
                    id="line-13"></span><span class="anchor"
                    id="line-14"></span></p>
              </li>
            </ol>
            <p class="line862">"<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
              for Certification Authorities" is equivalent to "ETSI EN
              319 401" and "<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
              Principles and Criteria for Certification Authorities –
              SSL Baseline with Network Security" is equivalent to "ETSI
              EN 319 411-1". <span class="anchor" id="line-15"></span><span
                class="anchor" id="line-16"></span></p>
            <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <span
                class="anchor" id="line-17"></span><span class="anchor"
                id="line-18"></span></p>
            <p class="line874">Replace the first two numbered items in
              section 8.4 from: <span class="anchor" id="line-19"></span><span
                class="anchor" id="line-20"></span></p>
            <ol type="1">
              <li>
                <p class="line891"><span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                  for Certification Authorities v2.0; <span
                    class="anchor" id="line-21"></span></p>
              </li>
              <li>A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI TS
                102 042 / ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <span class="anchor"
                  id="line-22"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-23"></span></li>
            </ol>
            <p class="line874">to: <span class="anchor" id="line-24"></span><span
                class="anchor" id="line-25"></span></p>
            <ol type="1">
              <li>
                <p class="line862">"<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                  for CAs v2.0 or newer" AND "<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                  for CAs SSL Baseline with Network Security v2.2 or
                  newer"; or  <span class="anchor" id="line-26"></span></p>
              </li>
              <li>"ETSI EN 319 401 v2.1.1 or newer" AND "ETSI EN 319
                411-1 v1.1.1"; or</li>
            </ol>
            <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION ENDS --</strong> <span
                class="anchor" id="line-29"></span><span class="anchor"
                id="line-30"></span></p>
            <p class="line874">The procedure for this ballot is as
              follows (exact start and end times may be adjusted to
              comply with applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement): <span
                class="anchor" id="line-31"></span></p>
            <div>
              <table>
                <tbody>
                  <tr>
                    <td style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp;
                      quot&quot; ; background-color:
                      &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                      <p class="line891"><strong>BALLOT 223 Status:
                          Update BR Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</strong>
                      </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp;
                      quot; ; text-align:center&quot; ;
                      background-color:
                      &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                      <p class="line891"><strong>Start time (22:00 UTC)</strong>
                      </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp;
                      quot; ; text-align:center&quot; ;
                      background-color:
                      &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                      <p class="line891"><strong>End time (22:00 UTC)</strong>
                      </p>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td><span class="anchor" id="line-32"></span>
                      <p class="line862">Discussion (7+ days) </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">23 April 2018 </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">30 April 2018 </p>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td><span class="anchor" id="line-33"></span>
                      <p class="line862">Vote for approval (7 days) </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">TBD  </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">TBD according to voting start
                        time </p>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                  <tr>
                    <td style="&quot; &amp; quot;
                      text-align:left; &amp; quot; &quot;"><span
                        class="anchor" id="line-34"></span>
                      <p class="line862">If vote approves ballot: Review
                        Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days)<br>
                        If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                        rescinded and PAG to be created.<br>
                        If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes
                        effective at end of Review Period.<br>
                        Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply
                        to this thread on the Public Mail List. </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">Upon filing of Review Notice by
                        Chair </p>
                    </td>
                    <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                      text-align:center&quot;">
                      <p class="line862">30 days after filing of Review
                        Notice by Chair </p>
                    </td>
                  </tr>
                </tbody>
              </table>
            </div>
            <span class="anchor" id="line-35"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-36"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-37"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-38"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-39"></span>
            <p class="line874">From the Bylaws section 2.4(a): "If the
              Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance
              Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or
              comparison showing the set of changes from the Final
              Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final
              Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the
              full set of guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall
              be made against the Final Guideline section(s) as they
              exist at the time a ballot is proposed, and need not take
              into consideration other ballots that may be proposed
              subsequently, except as provided in Section 2.4(j) below".
              <span class="anchor" id="line-40"></span><span
                class="anchor" id="line-41"></span></p>
            <p class="line862">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list
              reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor
              of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response.
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              A vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the
              response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The
              latest vote received from any representative of a voting
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            the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater
            than 50% of the votes cast by members in the browser
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            Forum wiki. Under the Bylaws section 2.3(g), at least the
            required quorum number must participate in the ballot for
            the ballot to be valid, either by voting in favor, voting
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