<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/4/2018 2:21 μμ, Arno Fiedler via
      Public wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:37f0462e-dd4b-dffc-056e-f8a56b9fa989@nimbus-berlin.com">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <p>Hello Dimitris,</p>
      <p>so starting at Mai 1th is fine, if we get 21 days for
        discussion.</p>
      <p>Best regards</p>
      <p>arno<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Hi Arno,<br>
    <br>
    The discussion has already begun on April 23rd. As already
    discussed, if no new information is presented, the final ballot
    (with no changes) will be sent, probably on April 30, stating that
    the voting will begin on May 1st with no more possible updates to
    the ballot.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Best Regards,<br>
    Dimitris.<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:37f0462e-dd4b-dffc-056e-f8a56b9fa989@nimbus-berlin.com">
      <p> </p>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.04.2018 um 07:39 schrieb
        Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote type="cite"
        cite="mid:90f5f8c3-23aa-6d16-66ee-c77897f281f2@it.auth.gr">
        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
          charset=utf-8">
        <br>
        So far the discussion has been quiet which either means people
        generally agree with the ballot or that nobody had time to
        review it :-)<br>
        <br>
        I plan on starting the voting period on May 1st unless we hear
        some strong objections.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Best Regards,<br>
        Dimitris.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/4/2018 8:18 πμ, Dimitris
          Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite"
          cite="mid:8318780c-e51e-64a6-f604-e6fedc14e5ea@it.auth.gr">
          <p class="line874"><br>
          </p>
          <p class="line874">The following motion has been proposed by
            Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by Moudrick M.
            Dadashov of SSC and Tim Hollebeek from Digicert. <span
              class="anchor" id="line-6"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-7"></span></p>
          <p class="line867"><strong>Background</strong>: <span
              class="anchor" id="line-8"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-9"></span></p>
          <p class="line874">Section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements
            describes the audit criteria for CAs that issue
            Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This ballot attempts
            to achieve two things: <span class="anchor" id="line-10"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-11"></span></p>
          <ol type="1">
            <li>Remove the old ETSI TS documents <span class="anchor"
                id="line-12"></span></li>
            <li>
              <p class="line862">Align the <span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                and ETSI requirements <span class="anchor" id="line-13"></span><span
                  class="anchor" id="line-14"></span></p>
            </li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line862">"<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
            for Certification Authorities" is equivalent to "ETSI EN 319
            401" and "<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
            Principles and Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL
            Baseline with Network Security" is equivalent to "ETSI EN
            319 411-1". <span class="anchor" id="line-15"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-16"></span></p>
          <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <span
              class="anchor" id="line-17"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-18"></span></p>
          <p class="line874">Replace the first two numbered items in
            section 8.4 from: <span class="anchor" id="line-19"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-20"></span></p>
          <ol type="1">
            <li>
              <p class="line891"><span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                for Certification Authorities v2.0; <span
                  class="anchor" id="line-21"></span></p>
            </li>
            <li>A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI TS 102
              042 / ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <span class="anchor"
                id="line-22"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-23"></span></li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line874">to: <span class="anchor" id="line-24"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-25"></span></p>
          <ol type="1">
            <li>
              <p class="line862">"<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                for CAs v2.0 or newer" AND "<span class="nonexistent">WebTrust</span>
                for CAs SSL Baseline with Network Security v2.2 or
                newer"; or  <span class="anchor" id="line-26"></span></p>
            </li>
            <li>"ETSI EN 319 401 v2.1.1 or newer" AND "ETSI EN 319 411-1
              v1.1.1"; or</li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION ENDS --</strong> <span
              class="anchor" id="line-29"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-30"></span></p>
          <p class="line874">The procedure for this ballot is as follows
            (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with
            applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement): <span class="anchor"
              id="line-31"></span></p>
          <div>
            <table>
              <tbody>
                <tr>
                  <td style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp; quot&quot;
                    ; background-color:
                    &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                    <p class="line891"><strong>BALLOT 223 Status: Update
                        BR Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</strong> </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp;
                    quot; ; text-align:center&quot; ;
                    background-color: &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                    <p class="line891"><strong>Start time (22:00 UTC)</strong>
                    </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot; #E0E0FF&amp;
                    quot; ; text-align:center&quot; ;
                    background-color: &quot;&amp;quot&quot">
                    <p class="line891"><strong>End time (22:00 UTC)</strong>
                    </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td><span class="anchor" id="line-32"></span>
                    <p class="line862">Discussion (7+ days) </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">23 April 2018 </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">30 April 2018 </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td><span class="anchor" id="line-33"></span>
                    <p class="line862">Vote for approval (7 days) </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">TBD  </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">TBD according to voting start
                      time </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
                <tr>
                  <td style="&quot; &amp; quot; text-align:left;
                    &amp; quot; &quot;"><span class="anchor"
                      id="line-34"></span>
                    <p class="line862">If vote approves ballot: Review
                      Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days)<br>
                      If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                      rescinded and PAG to be created.<br>
                      If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes
                      effective at end of Review Period.<br>
                      Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to
                      this thread on the Public Mail List. </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">Upon filing of Review Notice by
                      Chair </p>
                  </td>
                  <td colspan="2" style="&quot;
                    text-align:center&quot;">
                    <p class="line862">30 days after filing of Review
                      Notice by Chair </p>
                  </td>
                </tr>
              </tbody>
            </table>
          </div>
          <span class="anchor" id="line-35"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-36"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-37"></span><span
            class="anchor" id="line-38"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-39"></span>
          <p class="line874">From the Bylaws section 2.4(a): "If the
            Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance
            Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison
            showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline
            section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline,
            and need not include a copy of the full set of guidelines.
            Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final
            Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is
            proposed, and need not take into consideration other ballots
            that may be proposed subsequently, except as provided in
            Section 2.4(j) below". <span class="anchor" id="line-40"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-41"></span></p>
          <p class="line862">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list
            reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of
            the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A
            vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A
            vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the
            response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest
            vote received from any representative of a voting member
            before the close of the voting period will be counted.
            Voting members are listed here: <a class="https"
href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fmembers%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C38331e54981341187a6508d5ac014ae7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636604043901501245&sdata=hxkdSje8Fvk6xsS942EenBP2jU43pcvRSv0gJIPJ4fg%3D&reserved=0"
              originalsrc="https://cabforum.org/members/"
shash="vQrgAl1MDBihR/dzS/gytKCdMNVxDaJIFECGzQ3+MRUzZrN/ApRow5NBsMyO6US46WuXyrrLTNAZOAByOJ/Y0DuimXjaz0a2q3oNq0xCDzA1PRtpEMbNRZBsq5y4gP4d8SxSZfGYkVhLZjGSeOrhK7i5bqn86xAIYH9wLTbjimo="
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/members/</a> <span
              class="anchor" id="line-42"></span><span class="anchor"
              id="line-43"></span></p>
          In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of
          the votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than
          50% of the votes cast by members in the browser category must
          be in favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under
          the Bylaws section 2.3(g), at least the required quorum number
          must participate in the ballot for the ballot to be valid,
          either by voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining. <br>
          <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
          <br>
          <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Public mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Public@cabforum.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpublic&data=02%7C01%7C%7C38331e54981341187a6508d5ac014ae7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636604043901501245&sdata=O61OUygBhVWvJUO8Ug7f2mLWqyxAnVoNuxJuBVJDnzc%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public" shash="OyMOYy3QQkTnP2E3ol09QrzdkZEJlrVyGF6yvNcORHvrVT1QKGeVUTOeez3liDnFZyBxIf9YYUzD8MZRzd3wtPcn3cAS4kgI49Dfsxv1QalCm8AS8gW0iHGJ+0xqEN5NSV4d7iVLsbw+6MA52rjHYpA715FvTrPRjwQtjSb4R7M=" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a>
</pre>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
        <br>
        <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
        <br>
        <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Public mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Public@cabforum.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpublic&data=02%7C01%7C%7C38331e54981341187a6508d5ac014ae7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636604043901657497&sdata=yfcaS78wsAZVH7wtKQ5APB%2F0ejm2tk%2BtxzSu6vwz3HM%3D&reserved=0" moz-do-not-send="true">https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fpublic&data=02%7C01%7C%7C38331e54981341187a6508d5ac014ae7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636604043901657497&sdata=yfcaS78wsAZVH7wtKQ5APB%2F0ejm2tk%2BtxzSu6vwz3HM%3D&reserved=0</a>
</pre>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Arno Fiedler
Nimbus Technologieberatung GmbH
Reichensteiner Weg 17
14195 Berlin
Mobil:      0049-(0)172-3053272
Fax:        0049-(0)30-89745-777
E-Mail:     <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arno.fiedler@nimbus-berlin.com" moz-do-not-send="true">arno.fiedler@nimbus-berlin.com</a>
Web:        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.nimbus-berlin.com" moz-do-not-send="true">www.nimbus-berlin.com</a>
Geschäftsführer:  Arno Fiedler
USt-IdNr. :       DE 203 269 920
D-U-N-S® Nr.      50-730-8117
HandelsregisterNr:HRB 109409 B</pre>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Public mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Public@cabforum.org">Public@cabforum.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public">https://cabforum.org/mailman/listinfo/public</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>