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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/4/2018 7:35 μμ, Tim Hollebeek
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Might
            as well fix all the audit references while we’re at it …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">-Tim</span></p>
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    Yes, we should take care of all criteria versions as I mentioned in
    replying to Peter, and allow for newer versions as well. For this
    particular issue of WebTrust for CAs, according to
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.webtrust.org/principles-and-criteria/item83172.aspx">http://www.webtrust.org/principles-and-criteria/item83172.aspx</a>, it
    seems that 2.0 is actively used for audit periods that begin before
    Nov 1, 2017. If I understand this correctly, we would be able to
    remove 2.0 from the Baseline Requirements only after Nov 1, 2018. <br>
    <br>
    Is this correct?<br>
    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
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                  Public [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On
                    Behalf Of </b>Jeff Ward via Public<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:34 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Ryan Sleevi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sleevi@google.com"><sleevi@google.com></a>;
                  CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List
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                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"><jimmy@it.auth.gr></a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update
                  Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi via Public<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 16, 2018 9:21 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a
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                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update
                  Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:18 AM,
                    Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public <<a
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                        I am looking for two endorsers for the following
                        ballot.<br>
                        <br>
                        Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>Ballot
                          XXX - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</strong>
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">The
                        following motion has been proposed by Dimitris
                        Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by ___ and
                        ___<o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>Background</strong>:
                        <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">Section
                        8.4 of the Baseline Requirements describes the
                        audit criteria for CAs that issue
                        Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This
                        ballot attempts to achieve two things: <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <li class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2
                          level1 lfo3">Remove the old ETSI TS documents
                          <o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="m-1167569698070291640line862"
                          style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3">Align the <a
href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a>
                          and ETSI requirements <o:p></o:p></li>
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                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line862">"<a
href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a>
                        for Certification Authorities" is equivalent to
                        "ETSI EN 319 401" and "<a
href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a>
                        Principles and Criteria for Certification
                        Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network
                        Security" is the equivalent of "ETSI EN 319
                        411-1". <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>--
                          MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">Replace
                        the first two numbered items in section 8.4 of
                        the Baseline Requirements from: <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <ol start="1" type="1">
                        <li class="m-1167569698070291640line891"
                          style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo5"><a
href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a>
                          for Certification Authorities v2.0; <o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
                          level1 lfo5">A national scheme that audits
                          conformance to ETSI TS 102 042 / ETSI EN 319
                          411-1; or <o:p></o:p></li>
                      </ol>
                      <p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">to: <o:p></o:p></p>
                      <ol start="1" type="1">
                        <li class="m-1167569698070291640line891"
                          style="mso-list:l3 level1 lfo8"><a
href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327763420&sdata=nF1OV4mtZ2VQF6ucGxisGOgndqhfDJYULFK4ZGNpOr4%3D&reserved=0"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a>
                          Principles and Criteria for Certification
                          Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network
                          Security; <o:p></o:p></li>
                        <li class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l3
                          level1 lfo8">A national scheme that audits
                          conformance to ETSI EN 319 411-1; or<o:p></o:p></li>
                      </ol>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">As noted several times that
                      this has come up in the past, your proposed change
                      to #1 is meaningfully and substantially different
                      than what is currently required. You are proposing
                      *changing* the audit scheme to a more restrictive
                      set. That's something in the past that browsers
                      have objected to, and for good reason.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>
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