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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">That is correct.  Version 2.0 is still in cycle, but for periods beginning on or after 11/1 will move to 2.1.  You may want to consider dropping the version number(s)
 and just reference to the CPA Canada matrix for applicability.  Just a thought.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Dimitris Zacharopoulos [mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>; Jeff Ward <jward@bdo.com>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <public@cabforum.org>; Ryan Sleevi <sleevi@google.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 19/4/2018 7:35 μμ, Tim Hollebeek wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Yes, we should take care of all criteria versions as I mentioned in replying to Peter, and allow for newer versions as well. For this particular issue of WebTrust for CAs, according to
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 Nov 1, 2018. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Ward via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Sleevi <a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com"><sleevi@google.com></a>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List
<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org"><public@cabforum.org></a>; Dimitris Zacharopoulos
<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr"><jimmy@it.auth.gr></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Not sure if it matters a great deal, but the reference to WebTrust for CA should be version 2.1, not 2.0.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Jeff Ward, CPA, CGMA, CITP, CISA, CISSP, CEH</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><br>
Office Managing Partner & National Leader Third Party Attestation (SOC/WebTrust/Cybersecurity)<br>
314-889-1220 (Direct)    347-1220 (Internal)<br>
314-889-1221 (Fax)</span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="mailto:jward@bdo.com"><span style="color:#ED1A3B">jward@bdo.com</span></a></span><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ryan Sleevi via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 16, 2018 9:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dimitris Zacharopoulos <<a href="mailto:jimmy@it.auth.gr">jimmy@it.auth.gr</a>>; CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 2:18 AM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org" target="_blank">public@cabforum.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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I am looking for two endorsers for the following ballot.<br>
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<p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>Ballot XXX - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</strong>
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<p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">The following motion has been proposed by Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by ___ and ___<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>Background</strong>: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">Section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements describes the audit criteria for CAs that issue Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This ballot attempts to achieve two things:
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Remove the old ETSI TS documents <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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</span></span><![endif]>Align the <a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">
WebTrust</a> and ETSI requirements <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-1167569698070291640line862">"<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">WebTrust</a>
 for Certification Authorities" is equivalent to "ETSI EN 319 401" and "<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust&data=02%7C01%7Cjward%40bdo.com%7Cefc0815200a54f92dbf908d5a3a571a5%7C6e57fc1a413e405091da7d2dc8543e3c%7C0%7C0%7C636594853327607164&sdata=8xxyL5y4ru1ryYPo35ybbZcRfoYyoFJqbSNpNNqgDZE%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank">WebTrust</a>
 Principles and Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network Security" is the equivalent of "ETSI EN 319 411-1".
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<p class="m-1167569698070291640line867"><strong>-- MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <o:p>
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<p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">Replace the first two numbered items in section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements from:
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 for Certification Authorities v2.0; <o:p></o:p></p>
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A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI TS 102 042 / ETSI EN 319 411-1; or
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<p class="m-1167569698070291640line874">to: <o:p></o:p></p>
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 Principles and Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network Security;
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A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <o:p></o:p></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As noted several times that this has come up in the past, your proposed change to #1 is meaningfully and substantially different than what is currently required. You are proposing *changing* the audit scheme to a more restrictive set. That's
 something in the past that browsers have objected to, and for good reason.<o:p></o:p></p>
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