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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/4/2018 10:33 μμ, Tim Hollebeek
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’ll
            endorse.</span></p>
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    <br>
    Thanks Tim and Moudrick. I will submit the ballot with number 232 on
    Monday to officially start the discussion period.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Dimitris.<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
                  style="color:windowtext"> Public
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                  </b>Dimitris Zacharopoulos via Public<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 15, 2018 2:19 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [cabfpub] Ballot proposal - Update
                  Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
            I am looking for two endorsers for the following ballot.<br>
            <br>
            Dimitris.<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line867"><strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ballot
                XXX - Update Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria</span></strong>
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line874">The following motion has been proposed by
            Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by ___ and ___<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line867"><strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Background</span></strong>:
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line874">Section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements
            describes the audit criteria for CAs that issue
            Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This ballot attempts
            to achieve two things: <o:p></o:p></p>
          <ol start="1" type="1">
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
              level1 lfo1">Remove the old ETSI TS documents <o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="line862" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">Align
              the <a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/-LNek6We930Vd68vfdVuJigg53vekXVCllJyfDkuA5g=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> and ETSI
              requirements <o:p></o:p></li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line862">"<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/-LNek6We930Vd68vfdVuJigg53vekXVCllJyfDkuA5g=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust"
              moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> for Certification
            Authorities" is equivalent to "ETSI EN 319 401" and "<a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/-LNek6We930Vd68vfdVuJigg53vekXVCllJyfDkuA5g=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust"
              moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> Principles and
            Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with
            Network Security" is the equivalent of "ETSI EN 319 411-1".
            <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line867"><strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">--
                MOTION BEGINS --</span></strong> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line874">Replace the first two numbered items in
            section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements from: <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <li class="line891" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/-LNek6We930Vd68vfdVuJigg53vekXVCllJyfDkuA5g=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> for Certification
              Authorities v2.0; <o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0
              level1 lfo2">A national scheme that audits conformance to
              ETSI TS 102 042 / ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <o:p></o:p></li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line874">to: <o:p></o:p></p>
          <ol start="1" type="1">
            <li class="line891" style="mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3"><a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/-LNek6We930Vd68vfdVuJigg53vekXVCllJyfDkuA5g=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cabforum.org%2Fwiki%2FWebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> Principles and
              Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with
              Network Security; <o:p></o:p></li>
            <li class="MsoNormal"
              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2
              level1 lfo3">A national scheme that audits conformance to
              ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <o:p></o:p></li>
          </ol>
          <p class="line867"><strong><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">--
                MOTION ENDS --</span></strong> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line874">The procedure for this ballot is as follows
            (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with
            applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement): <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="line862">BALLOT XXX Status: Update BR
                      Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">Start time (22:00 UTC) <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">End time (22:00 UTC) <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="line862">Discussion (7+ days) <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">TBD (hopefully 23 April 2018) <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">TBD<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="line862">Vote for approval (7 days) <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">TBD <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">TBD according to voting start time
                      <o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
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                    <p class="line862">If vote approves ballot: Review
                      Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days)<br>
                      If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                      rescinded and PAG to be created.<br>
                      If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes
                      effective at end of Review Period.<br>
                      Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to
                      this thread on the Public Mail List.<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">Upon filing of Review Notice by
                      Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
                  </td>
                  <td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt">
                    <p class="line862" style="text-align:center"
                      align="center">30 days after filing of Review
                      Notice by Chair<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="line874">From the Bylaws section 2.4(a): "If the
            Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance
            Guideline, such ballot will include a redline or comparison
            showing the set of changes from the Final Guideline
            section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline,
            and need not include a copy of the full set of guidelines.
            Such redline or comparison shall be made against the Final
            Guideline section(s) as they exist at the time a ballot is
            proposed, and need not take into consideration other ballots
            that may be proposed subsequently, except as provided in
            Section 2.4(j) below". <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="line862">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list
            reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of
            the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A
            vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A
            vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the
            response. Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest
            vote received from any representative of a voting member
            before the close of the voting period will be counted.
            Voting members are listed here: <a
href="https://clicktime.symantec.com/a/1/5LbPFFbWqIbCa126pV-YOFw16zyp81X22ss8nMAxV5k=?d=vIszBeHpPVlFAX7-F5YlmWCDQRFNY29KroZO7y-g37lmsIOJh3MczDGr3NltsFHSIXp-2UBFvC2LBAns0GRnRMbwWRGMqZpE7v1ZFxZcI0J51Y3sEQVRkDmHml_JK8RookQmyVTMTDOSJMQOQRsyiMW-gIiYDjd6mXZ10RdBgVpVV_3D6GEdG_HX9aXOg-R-JEZ5wY821Xm-0MGiGMW0inVh0Hqqb_FknYU_8yhjLmaEnnHAjEyG3apfMUOJqLBRz9zEg38--EeH8jkBBAdkaETASOeviw26vUFjF7T5Uv9JF7bygxt5Z2hOc2YmviOGbuDk8aeTHdsOJte591N3JeYvSCBiSjT9vdiVigxW8_kJWX1VFJs4-V5aglbmR2cxNl2S7jofUoh2JLVL3qkke03oqkmNThw2S0deVf3Ky2cBVmVfGKI%3D&u=https%3A%2F%2Fcabforum.org%2Fmembers%2F"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/members/</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">In order for the motion to be adopted,
            two thirds or more of the votes cast by members in the CA
            category and greater than 50% of the votes cast by members
            in the browser category must be in favor. Quorum is shown on
            CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under the Bylaws section 2.3(g), at
            least the required quorum number must participate in the
            ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by voting in
            favor, voting against, or abstaining. <o:p></o:p></p>
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