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    I did not add this language, it exists in the current BRs :-) I also
    find it confusing and would be happy to remove it. Auditors need to
    be qualified anyway as described in section 8.2 so the "national
    scheme" in 8.4 is redundant.<br>
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    If there are no objections, I will remove it.<br>
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    <br>
    Dimitris.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/4/2018 10:53 πμ, Moudrick M.
      Dadashov wrote:<br>
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      We endorse this but what do you mean by "a national scheme"?<br>
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      Thanks,<br>
      M.D.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2018 9:18 AM, Dimitris
        Zacharopoulos via Public wrote:<br>
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        I am looking for two endorsers for the following ballot.<br>
        <br>
        Dimitris.<br>
        <br>
        <p class="line867"><strong>Ballot XXX - Update Section 8.4 for
            CA audit criteria</strong> <span class="anchor" id="line-3"></span><span
            class="anchor" id="line-4"></span></p>
        <p class="line874">The following motion has been proposed by
          Dimitris Zacharopoulos of HARICA and endorsed by ___ and ___<span
            class="anchor" id="line-5"></span></p>
        <p class="line867"><strong>Background</strong>: <span
            class="anchor" id="line-7"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-8"></span></p>
        <p class="line874">Section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements
          describes the audit criteria for CAs that issue
          Publicly-Trusted SSL/TLS Certificates. This ballot attempts to
          achieve two things: <span class="anchor" id="line-9"></span><span
            class="anchor" id="line-10"></span></p>
        <ol type="1">
          <li>Remove the old ETSI TS documents <span class="anchor"
              id="line-11"></span></li>
          <li>
            <p class="line862">Align the <a class="nonexistent"
                href="https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> and ETSI
              requirements <span class="anchor" id="line-12"></span><span
                class="anchor" id="line-13"></span><span class="anchor"
                id="line-14"></span></p>
          </li>
        </ol>
        <p class="line862">"<a class="nonexistent"
            href="https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust"
            moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> for Certification
          Authorities" is equivalent to "ETSI EN 319 401" and "<a
            class="nonexistent"
            href="https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust"
            moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> Principles and Criteria
          for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with Network
          Security" is the equivalent of "ETSI EN 319 411-1". <span
            class="anchor" id="line-15"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-16"></span></p>
        <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION BEGINS --</strong> <span
            class="anchor" id="line-17"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-18"></span></p>
        <p class="line874">Replace the first two numbered items in
          section 8.4 of the Baseline Requirements <span class="anchor"
            id="line-19"></span>from: <span class="anchor" id="line-20"></span><span
            class="anchor" id="line-21"></span></p>
        <ol type="1">
          <li>
            <p class="line891"><a class="nonexistent"
                href="https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> for Certification
              Authorities v2.0; <span class="anchor" id="line-22"></span></p>
          </li>
          <li>A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI TS 102
            042 / ETSI EN 319 411-1; or <span class="anchor"
              id="line-23"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-24"></span></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="line874">to: <span class="anchor" id="line-25"></span><span
            class="anchor" id="line-26"></span></p>
        <ol type="1">
          <li>
            <p class="line891"><a class="nonexistent"
                href="https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/WebTrust"
                moz-do-not-send="true">WebTrust</a> Principles and
              Criteria for Certification Authorities – SSL Baseline with
              Network Security; <span class="anchor" id="line-27"></span></p>
          </li>
          <li>A national scheme that audits conformance to ETSI EN 319
            411-1; or <span class="anchor" id="line-28"></span><span
              class="anchor" id="line-29"></span></li>
        </ol>
        <p class="line867"><strong>-- MOTION ENDS --</strong> <span
            class="anchor" id="line-30"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-31"></span></p>
        <p class="line874">The procedure for this ballot is as follows
          (exact start and end times may be adjusted to comply with
          applicable Bylaws and IPR Agreement): <span class="anchor"
            id="line-32"></span><span class="anchor" id="line-33"></span></p>
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            <tbody>
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                <td style="background-color: &quot;#E0E0FF&quot">
                  <p class="line862">BALLOT XXX Status: Update BR
                    Section 8.4 for CA audit criteria </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="background-color:
                  &quot;#E0E0FF&quot;; text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862"> Start time (22:00 UTC) </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="background-color:
                  &quot;#E0E0FF&quot;; text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862"> End time (22:00 UTC) </p>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td><span class="anchor" id="line-34"></span>
                  <p class="line862"> Discussion (7+ days) </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862"> TBD (hopefully 23 April 2018) </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862">TBD</p>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr>
                <td><span class="anchor" id="line-35"></span>
                  <p class="line862"> Vote for approval (7 days) </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862"> TBD </p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862"> TBD according to voting start time
                  </p>
                </td>
              </tr>
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                <td style="&quot; text-align: left; &quot;"><span
                    class="anchor" id="line-36"></span>
                  <p class="line862">If vote approves ballot: Review
                    Period (Chair to send Review Notice) (30 days)<br>
                    If Exclusion Notice(s) filed, ballot approval is
                    rescinded and PAG to be created.<br>
                    If no Exclusion Notices filed, ballot becomes
                    effective at end of Review Period.<br>
                    Votes must be cast by posting an on-list reply to
                    this thread on the Public Mail List.</p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862">Upon filing of Review Notice by
                    Chair</p>
                </td>
                <td colspan="2" style="text-align: center">
                  <p class="line862">30 days after filing of Review
                    Notice by Chair</p>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
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        <span class="anchor" id="line-37"></span><span class="anchor"
          id="line-38"></span>
        <p class="line874">From the Bylaws section 2.4(a): "If the Draft
          Guideline Ballot is proposing a Final Maintenance Guideline,
          such ballot will include a redline or comparison showing the
          set of changes from the Final Guideline section(s) intended <span
            class="anchor" id="line-39"></span>to become a Final
          Maintenance Guideline, and need not include a copy of the full
          set of guidelines. Such redline or comparison shall be made
          against the Final Guideline section(s) as they exist at the
          time a ballot is proposed, and need not take into
          consideration other ballots that may be proposed subsequently,
          except as provided in Section 2.4(j) below". <span
            class="anchor" id="line-40"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-41"></span></p>
        <p class="line862">Votes must be cast by posting an on-list
          reply to this thread on the Public list. A vote in favor of
          the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the response. A vote
          against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A vote to
          abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response.
          Unclear responses will not be counted. The latest vote
          received from any representative of a voting member before the
          close of the voting period will be counted. Voting members are
          listed here: <a class="https"
            href="https://cabforum.org/members/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cabforum.org/members/</a>
          <span class="anchor" id="line-42"></span><span class="anchor"
            id="line-43"></span></p>
        In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the
        votes cast by members in the CA category and greater than 50% of
        the votes cast by members in the browser category must be in
        favor. Quorum is shown on CA/Browser Forum wiki. Under the
        Bylaws section 2.3(g), at least the required quorum number must
        participate in the ballot for the ballot to be valid, either by
        voting in favor, voting against, or abstaining. <br>
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