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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Virginia – we have been following the steps you listed below, and have been sending out “Review Notices” since Ballot 190 that included the specific Ballot language in “track
changes” mode showing how our guidelines (BRs or EVGL) were amended by each Ballot – I believed that this complied with our Bylaws shown below.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Unfortunately, as Ryan pointed out a few days ago, our Review Notices can’t include just the
<i><u>specific</u></i> Ballot language showing the changes that were made by the Ballot, but must include “</span><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">a complete draft of the Draft Guideline</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
[i.e., the <i><u>entire</u></i> BR or EVGL document itself] that is the subject of such notice”. Oddly enough, the IPR Agreement language doesn’t allow the “Draft Guideline” that is sent with the Review Notice to show what changes were made by the Ballot,
so it’s not very helpful to Members for their IP review</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As a result, I will be sending out revised Review Notices this week that include the entire “Draft Guideline that is the subject of such notice” for the following ballots:
Ballots 190, 191-193, 195-197, 199, 201, 204, 207, 210, 214-215, and 217. Because there were no Exclusion Notices filed last time in response to the Review Notices sent (except for Ballot 190, where royalty free licenses were granted), I doubt there will
be any new Exclusion Notices submitted this time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">As a separate matter, I note that the Governance Change Working Group is already working on an updated draft of our IPR Agreement. I suggest the WG consider changing IPRA
Sec. 4.1 so that Review Notices for Final Maintenance Guidelines (our typical ballots)
<i><u>only</u></i> provide the <i><u>specific</u></i> Guideline language that was changed by a Ballot (in “track changes” mode), and not the entire Draft Guideline (i.e., don’t send the entire BR or EVGL document that doesn’t showing the changes made by the
Ballot). That would seem more useful to Forum Members in reviewing a Review Notice for the purpose of providing Exclusion Notices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Here’s a further explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WHAT OUR BYLAWS SAY ABOUT BALLOTS AND REVIEW NOTICES<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Here are the relevant portions of what our Bylaws say about Ballots that propose a “Final Maintenance Guideline” (something that amends the existing BRs or EVGL), which is
different from a “Final Guideline” (which is a whole new set of requirements in a new document):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">2.4 Requirements for Draft Guideline Ballots<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This section applies to any ballot that proposes a Final Guideline or a Final Maintenance Guideline (a “Draft Guideline Ballot”), all as defined under
the Forum’s IPR Policy. Draft Guideline Ballots must comply with the following rules in addition to the requirements set forth in Section 2.3 above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(a) A Draft Guideline Ballot will clearly indicate whether it is proposing a Final Guideline or a Final Maintenance Guideline. If the Draft Guideline
Ballot is proposing a <u>Final Guideline</u>, such ballot will include the <u>full text of the Draft Guideline intended to become a Final Guideline</u>. If the Draft Guideline Ballot is proposing a
<u>Final Maintenance Guideline</u>, such ballot will include a <u>redline or comparison showing the set of changes</u> from the Final Guideline section(s) intended to become a Final Maintenance Guideline,
<u>and need not include a copy of the full set of guidelines</u>. ***<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(b) [Discussion period details]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(c) [Voting period details]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(d) [Announcement of vote result]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(e) If a Draft Guideline Ballot passes the Initial Vote, the Chair shall initiate, no later than the 3rd business day after the announcement of the
Initial Vote results, the <u>Review Period</u> of 30 or 60 days, as applicable and
<u>as described in Section 4.1 of the IPR Policy</u>. <u>The Chair will initiate the Review Period by sending the Review Notice to both the Member Mail List and the Public Mail List</u>. The Review Notice will clearly specify the open and close dates and
times (with time zone) of the Review Period. [Vice Chair may do this if the Chair does not]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(f) [Chair to distribute any Exclusion Notices received]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(g) [Exclusion Notices must also be sent to the Public List]
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(h) If no Exclusion Notices are filed during the Review Period with respect to a Draft Guideline Ballot, then the results of the Initial Vote are
automatically deemed to be final and approved, and Draft Guidelines then become either Final Guidelines or Final Maintenance Guidelines, as designated in the Draft Guidelines Ballot. The Chair will notify both the Member Mail List and the Public Mail List
of the final approval within 3 business days, as well as update the Public Website of Final Guidelines and Final Maintenance Guidelines within 10 business days of the close of the Review Period.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(i) If Exclusion Notice(s) are filed during the Review Period [PAG created, etc.].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(j) [What to do if two overlapping Ballots amend the same sections]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">WHAT OUR IPR AGREEMENT SAYS ABOUT BALLOTS AND REVIEW NOTICES<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Our IPR Agreement is largely consistent with the Bylaws, but includes this provision requiring the entire “Draft Guideline” be part of the Review notice, as Ryan pointed out
a few days ago. This means the entire updated BR or EVGL document, not showing what the Ballot changes were:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">IPR Agreement Sec. 4.1 - Review of Draft Specifications</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Prior to the approval of a CAB Forum Draft Guideline as a CAB Forum Final Guideline or Final Maintenance Guideline there shall be a review period during
which Participants may exclude certain Essential Claims from CAB Forum RF Licenses. The CAB Forum Chair shall initiate the Review Period by distributing to each CAB Forum Participant a notice of review period
<u>and a <i>complete</i> draft of the <i>Draft Guideline</i> that is the subject of such notice</u> (“Review Notice”). Each Participant on behalf of itself and its Affiliates shall have sixty (60) days following the date of the receipt of such Review Notice
(“Review Period”) to review such Draft Guideline and consider any licensing obligations with respect to any Essential Claims that may be encompassed by such Draft Guideline. The approval of a CAB Forum Final Maintenance Guideline shall follow the same process
except that the Review Period shall be thirty (30) days.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Virginia Fournier via Public<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL][cabfpub] Review Notices<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">I agree that some Review Notices that have been sent out may not comply with Section 2.4(e) of the Bylaws. The sequence of events is important, and there was a very thorough discussion about this sequence in connection
with the ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">A thumbnail sketch of the sequence:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
7-day discussion period<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
7-day voting period<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
Ballot passes the Initial Vote (if it doesn’t, stop here).<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
Chair initiates Review Period (30 or 60 days) with Review Notice to Public and Member lists<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
If no exclusion notices are filed during the Review Period, then ballot is approved.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">
If there are exclusion notices filed during the Review Period, then ballot is not approved at that time, then PAG, etc.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">So, here’s the question, was a Review Notice sent out after a Ballot passed, and, if so, did the Review Notice include the correct information? If not, the Ballot was not properly approved, a new Review Notice
will need to be sent out with the correct information, and participants will need to be given a new Review Period. Otherwise, the Ballot will not be “approved” according to the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Any questions about this?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Ryan Sleevi <<a href="mailto:sleevi@google.com">sleevi@google.com</a>><br>
To: Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>>, "CA/Browser Forum<br>
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Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118<br>
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Hi Kirk,<br>
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As mentioned previously, these Review Notices don't comply with Section<br>
2.4(e) of the Bylaws and our IPR Policy, Section 4.1<br>
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As per <a href="https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.2.pdf">
https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/CABF-IPR-Policy-v.1.2.pdf</a><br>
Prior to the approval of a CAB Forum Draft Guideline as a CAB Forum Final<br>
Guideline or Final<br>
Maintenance Guideline there shall be a review period during which<br>
Participants may exclude<br>
CA/B Forum Intellectual Property Rights Policy, v. 1.2 Page 2<br>
certain Essential Claims from CAB Forum RF Licenses. The CAB Forum Chair<br>
shall initiate the<br>
Review Period by distributing to each CAB Forum Participant **a notice of<br>
review period and a<br>
complete draft of the Draft Guideline that is the subject of such notice<br>
(?Review Notice?)**. Each<br>
Participant on behalf of itself and its Affiliates shall have sixty (60)<br>
days following the date of<br>
the receipt of such Review Notice (?Review Period?) to review such Draft<br>
Guideline and<br>
consider any licensing obligations with respect to any Essential Claims<br>
that may be encompassed<br>
by such Draft Guideline. The approval of a CAB Forum Final Maintenance<br>
Guideline shall<br>
follow the same process except that the Review Period shall be thirty (30)<br>
days.<br>
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I think the important part is "a complete draft of the Draft Guideline"<br>
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Not a redline, but the complete draft - the fully integrated text.<br>
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On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Kirk Hall via Public <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Virginia ? yes, we have been posting Review Notices for every ballot that<br>
changes the Guidelines since Ballot 190 to the Public list ? just search on<br>
?Review Notice? and you should see them. Here is an example.<br>
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*From:* Public [<a href="mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org">mailto:public-bounces@cabforum.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Virginia<br>
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*Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:09 PM<br>
*To:* <a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a><br>
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL]Re: [cabfpub] Public Digest, Vol 69, Issue 118<br>
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Hi - I don?t recall seeing any Review Notices sent out pursuant to Section<br>
2.4(e) of the Bylaws. What is happening with those?<br>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:20:52 +0000<br>
From: Kirk Hall <<a href="mailto:Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com">Kirk.Hall@entrustdatacard.com</a>><br>
To: CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
Subject: [cabfpub] Updated CABF documents - Record of Review Notices<br>
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I attached updated copies of the BRs, EVGL, and Bylaws in "show changes"<br>
mode, in both Word and pdf format. Please review. If there are no edits,<br>
we can finalize and post to the CABF website at the end of next week.<br>
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A note on timing. The changes to the BRs and EVGL all come from a single<br>
ballot, Ballot 217, which only became effective on Jan. 20, 2018 (a week<br>
ago). Under our Bylaws, updated BRs and EVGLs should have been circulated<br>
by last Wednesday, so I am 3 days late - I apologize for any inconvenience.<br>
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Our Bylaws do not specify any time limit on when updated copies of the<br>
Bylaws must be created and circulated, and these revised Bylaws include<br>
only the changes from Ballot 216, which became effective Dec. 21, 2017 -<br>
about five weeks ago. Again, I apologize if anyone was inconvenienced by<br>
not receiving an updated copy of the Bylaws before today.<br>
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I also attach a document "Record of Review Notices Since Ballot 190 (27<br>
Jan 2018)" which indicates there have been no Exclusion Notices filed on<br>
Guidelines ballots since Ballot 190. Members were already aware of this,<br>
as anyone claiming an Exclusion Notice must post it to the Public list (and<br>
none have been posted since Ballot 190), but we will maintain and update<br>
this new document and send it out in the future on the Public list after<br>
the Review Period for each Guidelines ballot expires.<br>
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To: "CA/Browser Forum Public Discussion List" <<a href="mailto:public@cabforum.org">public@cabforum.org</a>><br>
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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 22:22:35 +0000<br>
Subject: Notice of Review Period ? Ballot 217<br>
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*NOTICE OF REVIEW PERIOD ? BALLOT 217*<br>
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This Review Notice is sent pursuant to Section 4.1 of the CA/Browser<br>
Forum?s Intellectual Property Rights Policy (v1.2). This Review Period is<br>
for Final Maintenance Guidelines (30 day Review Period). A complete draft<br>
of the Draft Guideline that is the subject of this Review Notice is<br>
attached.<br>
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Date Review Notice Sent: December 21, 2017<br>
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Ballot for Review: Ballot 217 ? Sunset RFC 2527<br>
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Start of Review Period: December 21, 2017 at 23:00 UTC<br>
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End of Review Period: January 20, 2018 at 23:00 UTC<br>
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Please forward any Exclusion Notice relating to Essential Claims to the<br>
Chair by email to <a href="mailto:kirk.hall@entrustdatacard.com">kirk.hall@entrustdatacard.com</a> before the end of the<br>
Review Period. See current version of CA/Browser Forum Intellectual<br>
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*(Optional form of Exclusion Notice is attached)*<br>
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*Ballot 217: Sunset RFC 2527*<br>
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This ballot modifies the "Baseline Requirements for the Issuance and<br>
Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates" as follows, based upon Version<br>
1.5.1:<br>
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In Section 2.2, replace the text:<br>
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"The CA SHALL publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br>
Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br>
accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br>
publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br>
CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 8.1). The disclosures MUST include<br>
all the material required by RFC 2527 or RFC 3647, and MUST be structured<br>
in accordance with either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. "<br>
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with the following:<br>
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"The CA SHALL publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br>
Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br>
accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br>
publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br>
CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 8.1).<br>
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Effective as of 31 May 2018, the Certificate Policy and/or Certification<br>
Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with RFC 3647. Prior to<br>
31 May 2018, the Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement<br>
MUST be structured in accordance with either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. The<br>
Certificate Policy and/or Certification Practice Statement MUST include all<br>
material required by RFC 3647 or, if structured as such, RFC 2527."<br>
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This ballot modifies the "Guidelines for the Issuance and Management of<br>
Extended Validation Certificates" as follows, based on Version 1.6.6:<br>
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In Section 8.2.2, replace the text:<br>
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"Each CA MUST publicly disclose their EV Policies through an appropriate<br>
and readily accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The<br>
CA is also REQUIRED to publicly disclose its CA business practices as<br>
required by WebTrust for CAs and ETSI TS 102 042 and ETSI EN 319 411-1.<br>
The disclosures MUST be structured in accordance with either RFC 2527 or<br>
RFC 3647."<br>
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With the following:<br>
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"Each CA MUST publicly disclose its Certificate Policy and/or<br>
Certification Practice Statement through an appropriate and readily<br>
accessible online means that is available on a 24x7 basis. The CA SHALL<br>
publicly disclose its CA business practices to the extent required by the<br>
CA's selected audit scheme (see Section 17.1).<br>
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Effective as of 31 May 2018, the CA's Certificate Policy and/or<br>
Certification Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with RFC<br>
3647. Prior to 31 May 2018, the CA's Certificate Policy and/or<br>
Certification Practice Statement MUST be structured in accordance with<br>
either RFC 2527 or RFC 3647. The Certificate Policy and/or Certification<br>
Practice Statement MUST include all material required by RFC 3647 or, if<br>
structured as such, RFC 2527."<br>
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